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Post  mogen Wed May 02 2012, 03:48

Unconfirmed reports indicate that Afmadow is now completely ringed-around by Allied forces and the noose is tightening. IMHO Afmadow is as good as taken and Kismayo will follow in quick order, perhaps this week. Chai bado ni moto Kismayo. Allied spoters and others are likely to be well-embed now, wherever they were needed. The 'roadside farmers' and sky watch 'towers' must all be watched and stopped in their tracks.




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Post  Olekoima Wed May 02 2012, 08:46

mogen wrote:Unconfirmed reports indicate that Afmadow is now completely ringed-around by Allied forces and the noose is tightening. IMHO Afmadow is as good as taken and Kismayo will follow in quick order, perhaps this week. Chai bado ni moto Kismayo. Allied spoters and others are likely to be well-embed now, wherever they were needed. The 'roadside farmers' and sky watch 'towers' must all be watched and stopped in their tracks.



Do you have a link to support this claim? We have heard the same many times before and we are getting abit bored. Tell us this is for real.
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Post  mogen Wed May 02 2012, 11:15


[/quote]Do you have a link to support this claim? We have heard the same many times before and we are getting abit bored. Tell us this is for real.[/quote]

Olekoima
Here is the link to one of the stories: http://www.keydmedia.net/en/news/article/somali_kenyan_forces_siege_afmadow_southern_somalia/


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Post  Olekoima Wed May 02 2012, 11:24

Thanks Mogen.
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Post  mogen Wed May 02 2012, 11:42

Olekoima wrote:Thanks Mogen.

I think it is for real this time round. AMISON are reporting it here http://somaliamediamonitoring.org/ and Risaala has the report here: http://www.risaala.net/view.php?id=4463

The strategists must be satisfied they have the ground (air and sea) covered now and we may be witnessing the beginning of the end of AS control in southern Somalia and elsewhere. Risasi and his air colleagues must be very busy indeed. Haven't seen anything from him. ON got promoted and disappeared from here. It is too eerie quiet here. Sad

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Post  Risasi Thu May 03 2012, 14:03

Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center.

Order of battle
At each point of the pentagon is a group of out lookers that alert a AS command in the town center of an advancing raid or sortie. They scan the horizon and literally listen for any roars of advancing aircrafts or troops , if confirmed a message is sent phone to a AS C3 (command, control, centers) for defensive measurers. Key AS persons vacate safe houses and a town defense ring activated. The AWACS points are made of a Key outlooker assisted by a homesteads of extended families; father/mother/children/grandfather/mothers/grandkids , cattle herders living in the same area. The assistance were taught by the key outlooker to identify KDF air/land assets which result to observing a wider area as the extended sensory part of the AWACS: Aircraft Warning and Combating System .

We suspect that several defense stations are 5- 7km behind the pentagon points and consist of around +3 spread out stations/families of Roadside farm operators and AA teams armed with RPG’s, technical could be Manipad making up a defense ring for the town.

Higher learning
It is believed that groups of foreign fighters are working with the AS C3 and formulated the AWACS structure. We also know that the key outlookers were brought into Kenya and frequented arers neaby KDF facilities, trained to familiarize with sound of KDF aircrafts sounds and visual identification both day and night. day and night cellphone video clips of KDF assets are also in the hands of the pentagon AWACS outlookers. these clips were further used to train the outlookers assistance (extended families) forming the AWACS area of operation.

This message is for deliberation/updating and NOT for operation suggestions. operation suggestion might interfere with set plans or educate the enemy leading to a complicated maze
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Post  mogen Thu May 03 2012, 17:45

Thanks 'Bulletman'.

We know the 2 towns will fall soon, regardless. Tunangojea tu and we are happy to wait. Niko mbali lakini my ear is to the ground kusikia mngurumo ya tinga na ya nyuni pia.

Ahsante Afande



Risasi wrote:Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center.

Order of battle
At each point of the pentagon is a group of out lookers that alert a AS command in the town center of an advancing raid or sortie. They scan the horizon and literally listen for any roars of advancing aircrafts or troops , if confirmed a message is sent phone to a AS C3 (command, control, centers) for defensive measurers. Key AS persons vacate safe houses and a town defense ring activated. The AWACS points are made of a Key outlooker assisted by a homesteads of extended families; father/mother/children/grandfather/mothers/grandkids , cattle herders living in the same area. The assistance were taught by the key outlooker to identify KDF air/land assets which result to observing a wider area as the extended sensory part of the AWACS: Aircraft Warning and Combating System .

We suspect that several defense stations are 5- 7km behind the pentagon points and consist of around +3 spread out stations/families of Roadside farm operators and AA teams armed with RPG’s, technical could be Manipad making up a defense ring for the town.

Higher learning
It is believed that groups of foreign fighters are working with the AS C3 and formulated the AWACS structure. We also know that the key outlookers were brought into Kenya and frequented arers neaby KDF facilities, trained to familiarize with sound of KDF aircrafts sounds and visual identification both day and night. day and night cellphone video clips of KDF assets are also in the hands of the pentagon AWACS outlookers. these clips were further used to train the outlookers assistance (extended families) forming the AWACS area of operation.

This message is for deliberation/updating and NOT for operation suggestions. operation suggestion might interfere with set plans or educate the enemy leading to a complicated maze
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Post  cylon Sat May 05 2012, 21:59

i think that KDF needs to purchase some ballistic missiles that would
attack those AWACS and defensive positions of AS they would be slow to react
to something like that. 4 or 5 missiles would destroy any
technicals,man-pads,Armories, Command Posts etc What do you think?




Risasi wrote:Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center.

Order of battle
At each point of the pentagon is a group of out lookers that alert a AS command in the town center of an advancing raid or sortie. They scan the horizon and literally listen for any roars of advancing aircrafts or troops , if confirmed a message is sent phone to a AS C3 (command, control, centers) for defensive measurers. Key AS persons vacate safe houses and a town defense ring activated. The AWACS points are made of a Key outlooker assisted by a homesteads of extended families; father/mother/children/grandfather/mothers/grandkids , cattle herders living in the same area. The assistance were taught by the key outlooker to identify KDF air/land assets which result to observing a wider area as the extended sensory part of the AWACS: Aircraft Warning and Combating System .

We suspect that several defense stations are 5- 7km behind the pentagon points and consist of around +3 spread out stations/families of Roadside farm operators and AA teams armed with RPG’s, technical could be Manipad making up a defense ring for the town.

Higher learning
It is believed that groups of foreign fighters are working with the AS C3 and formulated the AWACS structure. We also know that the key outlookers were brought into Kenya and frequented arers neaby KDF facilities, trained to familiarize with sound of KDF aircrafts sounds and visual identification both day and night. day and night cellphone video clips of KDF assets are also in the hands of the pentagon AWACS outlookers. these clips were further used to train the outlookers assistance (extended families) forming the AWACS area of operation.

This message is for deliberation/updating and NOT for operation suggestions. operation suggestion might interfere with set plans or educate the enemy leading to a complicated maze
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Post  mogen Mon May 07 2012, 16:27

Nothing from Afmadow but apparently AS are digging defensive positions inside Kismayu airport...."
http://www.keydmedia.net/en/news/article/pictures_al_shabab_rebels_dig_defensive_positions_inside_kismayu_airport_en/

Risasi wrote:Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center. [/color]
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Post  Risasi Tue May 08 2012, 16:30

cylon wrote:i think that KDF needs to purchase some ballistic missiles that would
attack those AWACS and defensive positions of AS they would be slow to react
to something like that. 4 or 5 missiles would destroy any
technicals,man-pads,Armories, Command Posts etc What do you think?




Risasi wrote:Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center.

Order of battle
At each point of the pentagon is a group of out lookers that alert a AS command in the town center of an advancing raid or sortie. They scan the horizon and literally listen for any roars of advancing aircrafts or troops , if confirmed a message is sent phone to a AS C3 (command, control, centers) for defensive measurers. Key AS persons vacate safe houses and a town defense ring activated. The AWACS points are made of a Key outlooker assisted by a homesteads of extended families; father/mother/children/grandfather/mothers/grandkids , cattle herders living in the same area. The assistance were taught by the key outlooker to identify KDF air/land assets which result to observing a wider area as the extended sensory part of the AWACS: Aircraft Warning and Combating System .

We suspect that several defense stations are 5- 7km behind the pentagon points and consist of around +3 spread out stations/families of Roadside farm operators and AA teams armed with RPG’s, technical could be Manipad making up a defense ring for the town.

Higher learning
It is believed that groups of foreign fighters are working with the AS C3 and formulated the AWACS structure. We also know that the key outlookers were brought into Kenya and frequented arers neaby KDF facilities, trained to familiarize with sound of KDF aircrafts sounds and visual identification both day and night. day and night cellphone video clips of KDF assets are also in the hands of the pentagon AWACS outlookers. these clips were further used to train the outlookers assistance (extended families) forming the AWACS area of operation.

This message is for deliberation/updating and NOT for operation suggestions. operation suggestion might interfere with set plans or educate the enemy leading to a complicated maze



Sorry for keeping you waiting the.. AWACS is an unarmed establishment of families; camel/cattle herds, children etc. staying in a 20km circumference before the said towns. Their purpose is to act as an early warning system and tip of AS command in the town of an advance movement of AMISOM troops (equipment personnel numbers etc) towards the town.
a second defense ring of armed Militia is located 5-7 km behind the establishment to deter any offensive towards the town. In short if you bomb the AWACS (unarmed establishment of families) you will end up as Charles Taylor cellmate in The Hague charged with crimes against humanity.
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Post  Risasi Tue May 08 2012, 16:34

mogen wrote:Nothing from Afmadow but apparently AS are digging defensive positions inside Kismayu airport...."
http://www.keydmedia.net/en/news/article/pictures_al_shabab_rebels_dig_defensive_positions_inside_kismayu_airport_en/

Risasi wrote:Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center. [/color]

Part of their defensive structures…….
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Post  countersniper Tue May 08 2012, 23:14

According to this report...ugandans are planning to move to TAKE OVER kismayu ...they are tired of KDF tactics of waiting and waiting and waiting...

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Seven+lessons+Burundi+and+Uganda+can+teach+Kenya+soldiers/-/2558/1399910/-/wl4x4x/-/index.html
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Post  mogen Wed May 09 2012, 04:51

@countersniper: This is the statement you referred to:-

"...There is some talk now that after Afgooye — where Al Shabaab massed its military assets, and where several of its key commanders are now based — falls to the TFG and Amisom forces in the next few weeks, Burundi and Ugandan troops could be dispatched to Kismayu to join the KDF effort to take the city..."

But don't you think that a joint effort will be a good thing for everyone involved?

When AS are finally hit in Kismayu with the sea blockaded where do you think they will run to? From Muqdisho they ran to Afgoye, and Galgala Mts. Methinks, if both military and non-military strategies are employed to the full and in coordination we may finally see Somalia turning the corner and that will be the best thing East Africa will have experienced in many years. That is the prize my friend. Not bragging rights or anything like that.



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countersniper wrote:According to this report...ugandans are planning to move to TAKE OVER kismayu ...they are tired of KDF tactics of waiting and waiting and waiting...

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Seven+lessons+Burundi+and+Uganda+can+teach+Kenya+soldiers/-/2558/1399910/-/wl4x4x/-/index.html
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Post  Observer Wed May 09 2012, 18:34

Yo Admin ... been away kiasi and i come back and you've changed stuff what's up man? i liked the old style chief, one could see all the dialogue goin on in one place, no doubt there was a bit of "noise" but still served to "spice" the dialogue, like a little pili on the side, we could always take a glass of water when it got too much on our taste buds ... with this new style ... i don't know but it kind of put's one off... could we rethink it ... plus all the other E.A forces have their stuff in one basket ...Crying or Very sad

away from the digress there is this Obbo dude who reckons we are slowing things down in KDF sector ... he reckons we should be willing to sacrifice a lot more Kobos than we are willing too ... the guy was in Crazy the other day and i think he feels he knows it all now ... interesting read though ...
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Post  mbs Wed May 09 2012, 21:43

Observer wrote:

away from the digress there is this Obbo dude who reckons we are slowing things down in KDF sector ... he reckons we should be willing to sacrifice a lot more Kobos than we are willing too ... the guy was in Crazy the other day and i think he feels he knows it all now ... interesting read though ...
you said it so well, he has no idea what warfare/politics about that particular region. What happens when we kick out Al shabab ? who do we hand it over to ? TFG ? what about the The other 2 Militia that we are in bed with ? they will not give up the jewel of the crown ( Kismayu Port ) to TFG and see them losing alot of Revenue. The TFG/AMISOM has not fully pacified their regions and I dont see that happening in a few days,months maybe. Besides, TFG are in bed with Turkey at the moment who are in the region only for the Oil and who may not have our interest at heart. Moving into Kismayu is not the problem, the problem is the aftermath. If its not in our interest, we will stay outside the Gates of Kismayu until the situation warrants it. Dont be surprised to see KDF withdrawing our Forces and proclaim a job well done. with the scramble of Somalia going on, we either sit at the table with the rest or Al Shabab is moved Eastwards towards Mogadishu, Somaliland, Puntland. We need to stop looking at the Kismayu debacle militarily for a minute and think politically.
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Post  mogen Thu May 10 2012, 15:07

@Risasi [aka 'Bulletman']
What was this we read the Madobe had ordered his men to take Afmadow?


Risasi wrote:
mogen wrote:Nothing from Afmadow but apparently AS are digging defensive positions inside Kismayu airport...."
http://www.keydmedia.net/en/news/article/pictures_al_shabab_rebels_dig_defensive_positions_inside_kismayu_airport_en/

Risasi wrote:Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center. [/color]

Part of their defensive structures…….
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Post  mogen Thu May 10 2012, 15:30

@Risasi nimeona hii ZW-9 ikiwa kazini. Is our Bulletman holding its joystick?

reminds me of this one: https://youtu.be/syPXnOkjfsk pilot is happy indeed and well-pleased with the bird, if you can understand the Putonghua [Mandarin]. [I spent a few years in China and understand Mandarin]

Risasi wrote:
mogen wrote:Nothing from Afmadow but apparently AS are digging defensive positions inside Kismayu airport...."
http://www.keydmedia.net/en/news/article/pictures_al_shabab_rebels_dig_defensive_positions_inside_kismayu_airport_en/

Risasi wrote:Latest developments A.S
The enemy has developed a rudimental AWACS Aircraft Warning and Combating System to safe guard Afmadow and Kismayu. The structure is in the shape of a pentagon with each towns at the center of its AWACS. AWACS Observers are planted at the points of the pentagon 20km for the town center. [/color]

Part of their defensive structures…….
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Post  Spartan Sat May 12 2012, 11:11

Noticed that KDF carries both the G3 as well as the AK-47. Which one is the standard issue weapon? Just asking. I think a discussion of every soldier's constant companion is in order, now that we've talked everything from jets to tanks.

The AMISOM theatre is basically an AK-47 one, meaning no one has the advantage (Al Shabaab or AMISOM) when it all boils down to the type of assault riffle they are carrying. There are several types of the AK, as seen in the pic below, and it is safe to believe they are all in SOM.
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Several studies and reports by various entities have revealed that each weapon has its advantages and disadvanatges. US reports, drawing from their experience in Afghanistan, can be found here and here.

A field comparison video of the three most common weapons, the AK-47, M16 and G3 can be seen below;


There is agreement on all sides that;
1. The most accurate at 300 meters or less are the M16, G3 and the AK-47 in that order.
2. The most reliable in all kinds of weather are the AK-47, G3 and M16, in that order.
3. The most cost effective are the AK-47, G3 and M16, again in that order.

The main factors separating these weapons is the size of the projectile (7.62 x 39mm for the AK and 5.56 x 45mm for the M16) which I believe has an effect on the range of the rifle especially in rough weather, and the type of system in the chamber (gas-operated in the case of the AK and G3, direct gas 'impingement' for the M16). The latter is responsible for the easy management of the M16 when firing. The recoil action on the nyama ya bure when firing an AK or G3 means that it takes you considerably longer to have the gun-sight on the target again as seen in the video.

I would imagine it is a bit difficult for some countries to get their hands on the M16 and G3s due to international politics. Sudan, Ug, Egypt, Nigeria manufacture the AK, so nothing much of a factor there.

Given that most engagements take place at below 400 meters, the M16 would have won this debate hands down due to its accuracy at that range. But its price and unreliability in extreme weather, and the politics of obtaining it takes it off the table.

So it isn't hard to figure out why many armies still find it difficult to kiss the 70-year old weapon goodbye. My choice of AK variants is the AK-103 with grenade launcher. Advantages over the normal AK-47 is It has less recoil, giving it more accuracy at long ranges, up to 1,000 yards. And of course it has a faster reload but the killer of this beauty is the rugged black colour. It only misses a scope. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

NB: I choose it because it's the most realistic for me to get my hands on, otherwise I would have gone for those M4 sniper types we see in movies.

The AK-103 with grenade launcher
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Post  Risasi Sat May 12 2012, 16:18

@Risasi nimeona hii ZW-9 ikiwa kazini. Is our Bulletman holding its joystick?
kijanaa I am from fastjets.

@spartan the AK-47 (Kenya) is used by the policing and paramilitary units not the army. They use it because the General public feels its better than the G.3,its used symbolically to increase public confidence regarding the weapons that policing units use. its also light weight for walk around with during policing activities

I would go for AR-15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AR15_A3_Tactical_Carbine_pic1.jpg supported with the MiniMi Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) as support weapon any day. The MiniMi operates on both the belt and magazine ammo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_cw8xRasA&feature=related . the two riles are on the way to be standard KDF rifles. at the moment the AR-15 is a standard for all field officers.


The Ak-47/103 still lacks accuracy the one short one hit probability. It compensate that with a rapid fire rate, you will have to spray bullets left - right to hit a target.
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Post  Spartan Sat May 12 2012, 17:17

Risasi wrote:@spartan the AK-47 (Kenya) is used by the policing and paramilitary units not the army. They use it because the General public feels its better than the G.3,its used symbolically to increase public confidence regarding the weapons that policing units use. its also light weight for walk around with during policing activities

I would go for AR-15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AR15_A3_Tactical_Carbine_pic1.jpg supported with the MiniMi Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) as support weapon any day. The MiniMi operates on both the belt and magazine ammo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_cw8xRasA&feature=related . the two riles are on the way to be standard KDF rifles. at the moment the AR-15 is a standard for all field officers.

The AR-15 looks like a really mean piece. I would however like to disagree with you on the weight of the G3 as opposed to the AK, the AK-47 with magazine is around 5.2kg while the G3 is 4.7. Check out this link. And I've seen pictures of both machines with the KDF in Somalia.

Uganda Police is moving away from the AK-47 and adopting machines that are more effective at short range without putting the general populace at risk, like the Chang Feng assault submachinegun
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The Micro Galil is also a favourite when it comes to light assault for rapid SWAT-like units. I've heard from those who have fired them (I only got to massage one) that it's projectile is bad news if you're hit. It disintegrates in the body on contact unlike the AK-47 one that can make a clean incision and go out of the body. this means if shot with one on the leg, you are likely to have it amputated. The upside of this is that while the AK-47 projectile has been known to kill even three people at close range (which would be disastrous in an urban environment), the Micro Galil can take the "One Shot One Kill" saying from theory to reality.
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Post  mogen Sun May 13 2012, 04:47

Today we read of an incident where shorts were fired at a Dutch navy chopper off the coast of Somalia.
What does this mean to the KDF maritime operations along the Somalia coast?

http://allafrica.com/stories/201205110624.html
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Post  mogen Mon May 14 2012, 16:31

Interesting story here: http://www.keydmedia.net/en/news/article/u.s._trains_african_soldiers_for_somalia_mission/

Are the KDF members getting the Urban warfare training before hitting the two important southern Somalia cities/towns?
Ama, they do not need the training?
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Post  countersniper Tue May 15 2012, 13:52

mogen wrote:Today we read of an incident where shorts were fired at a Dutch navy chopper off the coast of Somalia.
What does this mean to the KDF maritime operations along the Somalia coast?

http://allafrica.com/stories/201205110624.html

there are reports of EU naval forces attacking and sinking pirate skiffs along the coast of Somalia at Hargesia yesterday using helicopter gunships.

this is what AMISOM OR KDF should have been doing...now the long noses will want to claim success in dealing with piracy while in read sense and truth pirates have been runing scared since KDF naval forces sealed off kismayu which was the main base of operations for the pirates...infact no piracy has taken place in the vicinity since kdf went into Somalia
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Post  mogen Tue May 15 2012, 15:48

@countersniper

EU force hits Somali pirate targets on land
Reuters 2012-05-15: NAIROBI (Reuters) - The European Union's anti-piracy force on Tuesday attacked pirate bases along the Somali coast for the first time, using helicopters to destroy suspect boats. Stepping up efforts against a multi-million dollar criminal enterprise that international navies have struggled to contain, the EU Naval Force (EU Navfor) said it had conducted an overnight attack on pirate targets using helicopters and surveillance aircraft. It was the first time the EU had taken its fight against the pirates to Somali soil since its mandate was expanded earlier this year to allow strikes on land, as well as at... http://article.wn.com/view/2012/05/15/EU_force_hits_Somali_pirate_targets_on_land/

It is unbelievable that it has taken them so long to realize the folly of spending millions at sea when they knew where the pirates were hiding. Catch them at sea and release them on shore....


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mogen wrote:Today we read of an incident where shorts were fired at a Dutch navy chopper off the coast of Somalia.
What does this mean to the KDF maritime operations along the Somalia coast?

http://allafrica.com/stories/201205110624.html

there are reports of EU naval forces attacking and sinking pirate skiffs along the coast of Somalia at Hargesia yesterday using helicopter gunships.

this is what AMISOM OR KDF should have been doing...now the long noses will want to claim success in dealing with piracy while in read sense and truth pirates have been runing scared since KDF naval forces sealed off kismayu which was the main base of operations for the pirates...infact no piracy has taken place in the vicinity since kdf went into Somalia
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/05/15/EU_force_hits_Somali_pirate_targets_on_land/http://article.wn.com/view/2012/05/15/EU_force_hits_Somali_pirate_targets_on_land/
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Post  Olekoima Tue May 15 2012, 18:09

Aren't rains hampering KDF activity this time round? Or it isn't raining out there? What a lame excuse they gave us last time. Ati rains, nkt.Mad Mad Mad
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Post  Flying Crane Tue May 15 2012, 18:59

Olekoima wrote:Aren't rains hampering KDF activity this time round? Or it isn't raining out there? What a lame excuse they gave us last time. Ati rains, nkt.Mad Mad Mad

cash friend....no cash..funds were squandered and diverted to personal accounts..wait until after june 1st.

i don,tknow why you folks don,t want to believe me
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Post  Guest Tue May 15 2012, 20:27

Hallo friends. Coming up for air, and a quick ''lookihere'' at yo'all. Very Happy

And what is this new fashion we are wearing in the Blog? ? In truth the activity levels since this ‘’liberalization’’ give verdict, I say! Absolute chaos, disorder, formless freedom. It is a gluttonous feast now, dammit!! No sophistication, a noodles dish, as I see it -how do we generate any sensible depth in our conversation when jumbled up threads pop up without coherence? How do you sight yourself with so many hostiles jumping into your face? One is blind-sided, no peripheral vision now. Is this still about EastAfrican Militaries anymore? Nothing to do with my regimented background, but navigating the blog now is akin to a running a recon-in-force in Chismayo at night, by gawd!!.

Without wearing body armor, I vote ‘’conservative’’!! No

@Crane - waacha hayo maneno yako, bana!! Very Happy

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Post  Sierra Kilo Tue May 15 2012, 20:36

ole Nkarei wrote:Hallo friends. Coming up for air, and a quick ''lookihere'' at yo'all. Very Happy

And what is this new fashion we are wearing in the Blog? ? In truth the activity levels since this ‘’liberalization’’ give verdict, I say! Absolute chaos, disorder, formless freedom. It is a gluttonous feast now, dammit!! No sophistication, a noodles dish, as I see it -how do we generate any sensible depth in our conversation when jumbled up threads pop up without coherence? How do you sight yourself with so many hostiles jumping into your face? One is blind-sided, no peripheral vision now. Is this still about EastAfrican Militaries anymore? Nothing to do with my regimented background, but navigating the blog now is akin to a running a recon-in-force in Chismayo at night, by gawd!!.

Without wearing body armor, I vote ‘’conservative’’!! No

@Crane - waacha hayo maneno yako, bana!! Very Happy

@ ON, tell that to the admin, he thinks maendeleo ni kuharibu!!!, please give back our old blog bwana admin!!!!! this blog was purely mean't for EA militaries and not a place to recycle meaningless articles from Yahoo news!!!!
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Post  Guest Wed May 16 2012, 00:22

People can we please refrain from opening new thread its really making the place very sloppy. i guess that's why admin made the regional issue page so u could post till you're heart contents all the links and discussions you want, while we retain the military structure we desire.

OleNakeri sir or anybody else can you help me educated our fellow Africans on the concept of "Kenyana" they have been ridiculing me that such a thing is what crazy people say so follow the link to help me out http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=91421095&posted=1#post91421095 (U might have to register to view the thread but trust me its worth it)


Risasi how is that maritime y-12 working can we get some pics of the bird when the heat has been lowered,What happened to the K-50 did we get the plane

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Post  kimiti Wed May 16 2012, 16:00

Hannibal wrote:

OleNakeri sir or anybody else can you help me educated our fellow Africans on the concept of "Kenyana" they have been ridiculing me that such a thing is what crazy people say so follow the link to help me out http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=91421095&posted=1#post91421095 (U might have to register to view the thread but trust me its worth it)



Some people are not ready for some things. Some time back you would have been burned at the stake if you said the world was round. ten years ago you would have been laughed out of town if you said America would have a black president. One year ago you would have been the laughing stock of the village if you said Kenya had a military that did anything more than shine boots for parades.
My drift is, we just have to adopt the Kenyan spirit and get ourselves up by our bootstraps and show them how it is done.

What happened to the allure of the forum? Admin, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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