Re: Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ)

mogen Thu Oct 25 2012, 12:59

tempest wrote:What a way to meet Tanzanian K-8s. ... ... They ejected WHILE ON THE GROUND!!

May have been flown there with canopy like the KAF flew one bird from Nairobi to Nanyuki without canopy..

Olekoima Thu Oct 25 2012, 13:13

mogen wrote:
tempest wrote:What a way to meet Tanzanian K-8s. ... ... They ejected WHILE ON THE GROUND!!

May have been flown there with canopy like the KAF flew one bird from Nairobi to Nanyuki without canopy..

Olekoima Thu Oct 25 2012, 13:16

tempest wrote:What a way to meet Tanzanian K-8s. ... ... They ejected WHILE ON THE GROUND!!

Is this their color scheme ?

tempest Thu Oct 25 2012, 13:23

On 23 October 2012 a K-8 Karakorum training plane lost directional control during take off from Julius Nyerere International Airport, Dar es Salaam. Both pilots ejected but one of them was killed on impact. The plane left the runway and struck a container.

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=150339

Risasi Thu Oct 25 2012, 15:46

Olekoima wrote:
tempest wrote:What a way to meet Tanzanian K-8s. ... ... They ejected WHILE ON THE GROUND!!

Is this their color scheme ?

WTF the rookie and trainer ejected on the tarmac? Doesn’t make sense at all from the pics??? The pics shows a broken canopy wind shield??? An ejected canopy wind shield detaches uniformly from the main body like this RAF pic, http://www.metro.co.uk/news/881097-red-arrows-pilot-dies-after-ejector-seat-failure-at-raf-scampton
the Tz one is still attached with a broken wind shield?? or may be they hardn,t buckled and were thrown off breaking the shield during the inpact??? Ok we hear more as time goes by.

You heard of the “Chosen tribe” activities at our north neighbor?
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article44324

@Olekoima thats thier That’s their training sch color scheme.KAF is red and white. Interesting It indicates that the K-8 is dedicated exclusively of training (fast jet trainer). That means a better or more advance bird is due in soon as the main air force war craft.
This is how EAC air forces standings are or will be 5 yre down.

Separately

This is how EAC air forces standings are or will be 5 yre down.

TZ
Basic student trainer: Piaggio P-149D
Advance pilot trainer xxxx
Fast jet trainer: Hongdu K-8 Karakorum /Shenyang F-5
Tactical fighter: Chengdu F-7 (ex-iran and ex-iraq)
Air superiority fighter: to be announced (tz has held its cards so close to the chest but I feel the air superiority fighter will be from china)
----------------------------------------------------------

UG
Basic student trainer: Aermacchi SF.260
Advance pilot trainer xxxx
Fast jet trainer: Aero L-39 Albatros
Tactical fighters: MiG21-2000
Air superiority fighter: Su-30MKII
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KE
Basic student trainer: Scottish Aviation Bulldog
Advance pilot trainer: Short Tucano T1 advanced fly (aircraft handling, formation fly flying and low-level navigation 100hrs)
Fast jet trainer: F-5F/Hongdu L-15
Tactical fighters: F-5E/F-5EM
Air superiority fighter F-15
--------------------------------------------------------------------

tempest Thu Oct 25 2012, 16:37

You can see where the rockets burnt the paint over the engine intake. The damage to the plane is minimal considering they ejected and the fatality.

Interesting you list the K-15 for Kenya. Good news.

Risasi Thu Oct 25 2012, 16:49

tempest wrote:You can see where the rockets burnt the paint over the engine intake. The damage to the plane is minimal considering they ejected and the fatality.

Interesting you list the K-15 for Kenya. Good news.

@tempest Maybe my typing era Twisted Evil

but no it isn,t. @TZ K-8 a colleague tells me may be the canopy hutch didn,t open sending the fliers throw the glass shield Which could have lead to the factuality.

Olekoima Thu Oct 25 2012, 18:05

tempest wrote:You can see where the rockets burnt the paint over the engine intake. The damage to the plane is minimal considering they ejected and the fatality.

Interesting you list the K-15 for Kenya. Good news.

K-15?

Olekoima Thu Oct 25 2012, 19:05

[color=black][quote="Risasi"]hats thier That’s their training sch color scheme.KAF is red and white. Interesting It indicates that the K-8 is dedicated exclusively of training (fast jet trainer). That means a better or more advance bird is due in soon as the main air force war craft.
This is how EAC air forces standings are or will be 5 yre down.

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Thanks for the info bro.

gash Fri Oct 26 2012, 09:08

by that does it mean kenya has f15 or will be.if so provide hard evidence

mogen Fri Oct 26 2012, 09:22

Risasi wrote:

You heard of the “Chosen tribe” activities at our north neighbor?
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article44324

Apparently, the target was a drone munitions store located next to the arms factory. Drones said to be Iranian.

jasiri Fri Oct 26 2012, 12:29

mogen wrote:
Risasi wrote:

You heard of the “Chosen tribe” activities at our north neighbor?
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article44324

Apparently, the target was a drone munitions store located next to the arms factory. Drones said to be Iranian.

Did the TZ K8 instructor leave the rudders to the student unmonitored? With civies, the KCAA will cancel your instructor licence on the spot! And why are the flaps down????
Anyway, the Sudanese are pinning their evidence of Israeli involvement on Israeli munitions, its really speculative. In the end though, Israel has the motive to conduct such a raid...not ignoring the fact it has done so twice in the past already.

HokumA Fri Oct 26 2012, 13:05

Risasi wrote:
KE
Basic student trainer: Scottish Aviation Bulldog
Advance pilot trainer: Short Tucano T1 advanced fly (aircraft handling, formation fly flying and low-level navigation 100hrs)
Fast jet trainer: F-5F/Hongdu L-15
Tactical fighters: F-5E/F-5EM
Air superiority fighter F-15
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Did you just say F-15 ama ni F-5E?

Cycoh 'DUDUS' Fri Oct 26 2012, 18:05

gash wrote:by that does it mean kenya has f15 or will be.if so provide hard evidence

Observe protocols mr. gash. You just instructed yourself. Hard evidence to counter the above.

Risasi Fri Oct 26 2012, 21:35

@jas on the flaps down issue , pictures get
Interesting when you are on the know. Very Happy

:D:D

jasiri wrote:
mogen wrote:
Risasi wrote:

You heard of the “Chosen tribe” activities at our north neighbor?
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article44324

Apparently, the target was a drone munitions store located next to the arms factory. Drones said to be Iranian.
Did the TZ K8 instructor leave the rudders to the student unmonitored? With civies, the KCAA will cancel your instructor licence on the spot! And why are the flaps down????
Anyway, the Sudanese are pinning their evidence of Israeli involvement on Israeli munitions, its really speculative. In the end though, Israel has the motive to conduct such a raid...not ignoring the fact it has done so twice in the past already.

jasiri Sat Oct 27 2012, 02:52

Risasi wrote:@jas on the flaps down issue , pictures get
Interesting when you are on the know. :D:D
jasiri wrote:
mogen wrote:
Risasi wrote:

You heard of the “Chosen tribe” activities at our north neighbor?
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article44324

Apparently, the target was a drone munitions store located next to the arms factory. Drones said to be Iranian.
Did the TZ K8 instructor leave the rudders to the student unmonitored? With civies, the KCAA will cancel your instructor licence on the spot! And why are the flaps down????
Anyway, the Sudanese are pinning their evidence of Israeli involvement on Israeli munitions, its really speculative. In the end though, Israel has the motive to conduct such a raid...not ignoring the fact it has done so twice in the past already.

I think i finally got it! if you look at the below Google Earth screen shot you will notice one thing, the plane was nowhere near the threshold of the nearest runway. Actually it was generally about 300 metres from RNW 14. Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 Jwltz_10

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 Jwltz_10

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Going by the 'flaps down' config of the aircraft at the terminal point my idea is that...the crew did a normal startup with no brakes on, the plane leapt forward, crew panicked and ejected (or attempted, going by the pics), plane bumps into a hangar pillar n a shipping container and nicely stops itself. however by the minimal damage (compare with the Zim K 8 below) then id say the power on the engines wasn't too much, otherwise we'd have had a Hollywood style fireball. Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 K-8-ka10

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 K-8-ka10

. Question, don't the Tanzanians know their checklist off head? there's a reason you always say 'brakes on' just before you start the plane.

MOOZALENDO Sat Oct 27 2012, 15:00

http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4295:tanzania-new-coastal-surveillance-systems-activated&catid=36:africa&Itemid=55
A new integrated radar and automatic identification system (AIS)
coastal surveillance system has been successfully installed in Tanzania
as part of a broader project headed by the International Maritime
Organisation (IMO) which aims to significantly enhance maritime
situational awareness in the region.

The maritime surveillance system was delivered over the past 12 months
by the IMO in partnership with the Tanzanian and US governments, with
Forward Slope, a privately owned company based in San Diego, California,
acting as prime contractor. The system included a 12 ft Raytheon X-band
radar.

According to the IMO the system will provide a coastal picture to both
the Tanzanian Peoples' Defence Forces and civilian authorities at the
Dar es Salaam Maritime Rescue Sub-Centre and the integral Information
Sharing Centre. This will allow resource-limited seagoing forces to have
a better chance of effectively reacting to maritime security threats
such as piracy, the IMO said.

Originally conceived as a bilateral military project between the US and
Tanzania, the IMO took over responsibility for the initiative in order
to integrate the system for civil and maritime law-enforcement use,
bringing all maritime agencies together to counter maritime security
threats such as piracy.

The work completes the first phase of a wider programme that will
provide similar systems in states bordering the Mozambique Channel and
its approaches, with work being carried out as part of the IMO's
counter-piracy programme under the Djibouti Code of Conduct and
including financial contributions from the Djibouti Code Trust Fund.

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 Tanzania-Coast

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 Tanzania-Coast

Cycoh 'DUDUS' Mon Feb 04 2013, 19:41

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 Arwidd10

Some young men of JWTZ who completed military training "Operation Census" of 842 KJ Mlale JKT pass infront of invitees, friends and relatives during the ceremony to complete their training in Songea.

Very Happy

They look lively, young and kicking by gawd! At long last they are re-surfacing for some fresh air.
They look more like our NYS?

mchoraji Fri Mar 01 2013, 10:25

The Russian naval ship Marshal Shaposhnikov has left Tanzania after four days in Dar es Salaam providing anti-piracy training to the Tanzanian navy, Tanzania's Daily News reported Thursday (February 28th).

Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa fight piracy jointly Tanzanian navy works with neighbours to combat piracy Japanese navy in Dar es Salaam for anti-piracy training British navy in Dar es Salaam to conduct anti-piracy training
During the first visit of a Russian warship to Tanzania, Russian soldiers shared their skills and experience fighting piracy with their Tanzanian counterparts, according to a statement from the Russian embassy in Dar es Salaam.

"The trip itself also assures the presence of a warship in the Indian Ocean, which has had a positive effect on piracy in the region, with attacks decreasing consistently," the statement said.

A delegation from the warship also met with Dar es Salaam Mayor Didas Masburi and Commander of the Tanzanian navy Major General Said Shaaban Omari.

countersniper Fri Mar 01 2013, 18:45

that is one serious destroyer with very portent armaments.
it is primarily a submarine hunter and destroyer i wonder why the ruskies are using such a vessel for anti piracy .

Uzi Thu Mar 07 2013, 19:28

http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/news/4-national-news/2725-military-plane-crash-lands-on-segera-highway-kills-2.html

Poleni sana JWTZ.
"

the army men collected the bodies of their colleagues, dismantled the plane and towed the wreckage to an army base,”

If u dismantle it how do u conduct forensics? is this standard procedure or it was necessary to allow traffic flow.
Do the Jet trainers have ejection capabilities?

mchoraji Fri Mar 08 2013, 08:57

countersniper wrote:that is one serious destroyer with very portent armaments.
it is primarily a submarine hunter and destroyer i wonder why the ruskies are using such a vessel for anti piracy .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_destroyer_Marshal_Shaposhnikov

@ C.snipper seems the ship has been having joint training exercises with several navies in the region including the Indian one.

Uzi wrote:http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/news/4-national-news/2725-military-plane-crash-lands-on-segera-highway-kills-2.html

Poleni sana JWTZ.

pole to them

Cycoh 'DUDUS' Fri Mar 08 2013, 17:55

Uzi wrote:
"
the army men collected the bodies of their colleagues, dismantled the plane and towed the wreckage to an army base,”
If u dismantle it how do u conduct forensics? is this standard procedure or it was necessary to allow traffic flow.
Do the Jet trainers have ejection capabilities?

Just blame "it" on the media. The last time I did a precautionary sweep across Tanzanian military circles, I bet the chaps are dang-good at such come-we-stay matters. Careless press.

mchoraji Mon Mar 25 2013, 09:47

As ON pointed out hii mali ya kenyana is really attractive.uncle woo in TZ which has become quite attractive especially with the humongous gas discoveries.woo must be really salivating.they also will sign 20 trade accords.i know the west is like damn!.with woo & ivan all over, the west must change their holier than thou engagement mode going forward kama they want a piece of the pie

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 China10

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 China10

mchoraji Thu Apr 04 2013, 10:35

Tz which has been a very stable nation for the past 50yrs is also going through a difficult period.these religious misukasukos are really causing havoc & they should be nipped in the bud.we want a stable region

http://freebongo.blogspot.com/2013/04/ripoti-maalumu-kuhusu-vurugu-za-tunduma.html

Sierra Kilo Mon Jul 22 2013, 22:45

Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania (JWTZ) - Page 7 Malawi10

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda president and commander in Chief of the Malawi Armed Forces Kneels before President Kikwete as a symbol of submission about the contentious boundary issues in Lake Nyasa.

Cycoh 'DUDUS' Mon Jul 22 2013, 23:35

Sierra Kilo wrote:

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda president and commander in Chief of the Malawi Armed Forces Kneels before President Kikwete as a symbol of submission about the contentious boundary issues in Lake Nyasa.

This can't be serious!! A whole C-I-C? Kneeling down before a one Mrisho? Beats logic. Shieee Very Happy

Spartan Tue Jul 23 2013, 16:52

Cycoh 'DUDUS' wrote:
Sierra Kilo wrote:

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda president and commander in Chief of the Malawi Armed Forces Kneels before President Kikwete as a symbol of submission about the contentious boundary issues in Lake Nyasa.

This can't be serious!! A whole C-I-C? Kneeling down before a one Mrisho? Beats logic. Shieee :D:D:D:lol:

I am reliably informed the lady kneeling is Prof. Etta Banda (no relation to Joyce Banda), Nkhata Bay South MP Malawi's Foreign Minister during Bingu Wa Mutharika's (R.I.P) time. And certainly the events of the photo happened before the Lake Nyasa standoff.

I once shared with members here on how to do a free online reverse image search (finding out what other sites are hosting an image). Try it out once in a while, very handy tool.

Cycoh 'DUDUS' Tue Jul 23 2013, 17:29

Spartan wrote:
Cycoh 'DUDUS' wrote:
Sierra Kilo wrote:

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda president and commander in Chief of the Malawi Armed Forces Kneels before President Kikwete as a symbol of submission about the contentious boundary issues in Lake Nyasa.

This can't be serious!! A whole C-I-C? Kneeling down before a one Mrisho? Beats logic. Shieee :D:D:D:lol:

I am reliably informed the lady kneeling is Prof. Etta Banda (no relation to Joyce Banda), Nkhata Bay South MP Malawi's Foreign Minister during Bingu Wa Mutharika's (R.I.P) time. And certainly the events of the photo happened before the Lake Nyasa standoff.

I once shared with members here on how to do a free online reverse image search (finding out what other sites are hosting an image). Try it out once in a while, very handy tool.

Thanks for the clarification. That was one helluva joke, fortunately saw it coming. That rib-cracking actually took three hours of my sleep.

@Sierra, your take bro?

Sierra Kilo Tue Jul 23 2013, 21:33

Cycoh 'DUDUS' wrote:
Spartan wrote:
Cycoh 'DUDUS' wrote:
Sierra Kilo wrote:

Her Excellency Dr Joyce Banda president and commander in Chief of the Malawi Armed Forces Kneels before President Kikwete as a symbol of submission about the contentious boundary issues in Lake Nyasa.

This can't be serious!! A whole C-I-C? Kneeling down before a one Mrisho? Beats logic. Shieee :D:D:D:lol:

I am reliably informed the lady kneeling is Prof. Etta Banda (no relation to Joyce Banda), Nkhata Bay South MP Malawi's Foreign Minister during Bingu Wa Mutharika's (R.I.P) time. And certainly the events of the photo happened before the Lake Nyasa standoff.

I once shared with members here on how to do a free online reverse image search (finding out what other sites are hosting an image). Try it out once in a while, very handy tool.

Thanks for the clarification. That was one helluva joke, fortunately saw it coming. That rib-cracking actually took three hours of my sleep.

@Sierra, your take bro?

Sorry Guys,.... though the page needed some heavy duty jumpstart...,,
This is the real Madam Banda..... VVVV

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