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Post  Guest Fri Jan 06 2012, 09:02

USMC Ice Soldier wrote:@risasi
The jammers did not completely take away IEDs, they greatly reduced them though. The safest and most accurate way to deliver an IED is by some kind of wireless signal but we took that away with the jammers which by the way is not a simple technology because our communications and GPS systems were unaffected. The other two ways is by use of pressure plates but that it is very indiscriminate and anyone can trigger it. The third way is by physically running wires from the IED and triggering them by hand, this method however exposes the attacker.
While using the jammers the IEDs sometimes would explode behind us and then we would stop and hunt the attacker depending on terrain and surroundings.

Quite elementary technology, really is, buddy. The Jammers are basically mounted on free-ranging, broad-spectrum scanners. Quite possible to program exemptions that overlook tactical comms of their jamming. Those we've worked here with operate in like manner.
Not sure getting off infantry vehicles to hunt for the trigger-chaps when the thing goes off behind moving vehicle is a great idea, soldier. Perfect reverse-ambush, in my thinking.
I told you chaps AS is History when KDF went in!!

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Post  Guest Fri Jan 06 2012, 11:01

Some of the ''gossip'' that drops into my overflowed in-tray. Non-classified but needing validation,.. Might give pointers why the eff-fifteen-ees are inbound without the usual maneno-manenos.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/05/politics/pentagon-strategy-shift/index.html?hpt=us_c2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16430405

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Post  Risasi Fri Jan 06 2012, 12:38

@IceMan

Well if those jammer were that effective they shouldn’t be a rise in IED casualties in 2011
http://original.antiwar.com/vlahos/2011/08/01/truth-emerges-about-ied-carnage/

Its not a fundamental rule that if you have IED get jammers ASP.
You have to look at the module of IED that you are facing, in order to get a suitable antidote for it. The sophistication of an IED depends on the training of the designer and the tools and materials available. An IED has several components: a switch (activator), an initiator (fuse), charge (explosive), and a power source (battery).
If the switch is actived by radio/signal, jammers can be used to disrupt the activation process. In short jammer don,t deal with the IED per say but disrupt the activation system only and only when the IED switch is of a Radio/ signal nature. http://www.allgedo.com/2011/09/02/somalia-report-with-ied-seized-by-puntland-security-forces-this-week/ied-siezed-by-psf/

Other source of activation is pressure switches(common in Somalia), anti-lift device (a specialty of our combat engineers), timers, magnetic triggers and cable/wires. Such switches are not affected by jamming and can even blow up your Silver Bullet the jamming vehicle, rendering a drop in troop morale.
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Post  Balozi Fri Jan 06 2012, 14:31

http://www.flickr.com/photos/usarmyafrica/5660078353/
a sergeant teach a neighboring Warrant officer Shocked Shocked Laughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3besHHNR2Y
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Post  jasiri Fri Jan 06 2012, 15:26

col your little bird should have his feathers plucked of or he should be shot at LA. soon, very soon.

renewed drive for the capture of Chismayo. more ground activity and air strikes, is this the final push to the hallowed ground?
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Post  mJESHI mMOJA Fri Jan 06 2012, 19:20

Happy New Year

KDF boost up its self propelled artillery pieces
2S1 Gvozdika SPH 122 mm, 12 pieces Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_poCCSeVc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlC1S2njEms&feature=endscreen&NR=1

2S3 Akatsiya M2 SPH 152 mm, 12 pieces Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f6o_YV0XME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PZnWtZU870&feature=related

Source UNITED NATIONS REGISTER OF CONVENTIONAL ARMS
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Post  Guest Fri Jan 06 2012, 21:08

jasiri wrote:col your little bird should have his feathers plucked of or he should be shot at LA. soon, very soon.

renewed drive for the capture of Chismayo. more ground activity and air strikes, is this the final push to the hallowed ground?

Hey, Jas, I guess the little bird sang before sun-up, overanxious to please. Don't be too hard on him - not frequently wrong, you know!!

Ever studied a bit on the crazy rush to Berlin at the close of WWII? Gen George Patton, FM Montgomery and the FM Zhukov? Well, seems echoes of the same dynamics now reverberating in Somalia. Tough times ahead, just hope no one gets too greedy - all hell might break loose.

Bashing the AS is now merely the excuse .. exercise....

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Post  Guest Fri Jan 06 2012, 23:17

@risasi
Iraq and Afghanistan are two very different animals. The terrain in Afghanistan can sometimes only be accessed by foot. The IEDs there, I'd even say 90% are anti-personnel as opposed to Iraq which were against vehicles. Since they are anti-personnel they used pressure plates which at first our guys could easily find with a metal detector such as the one a beach treasure hunter uses, but the afghanis got pretty smart pretty quickly and started using a method which I wont post how that made it hard for the metal detectors to find.
In Iraq where I toured, IEDs are aimed against convoys, usually against fuel and other supplies. The jammers stopped the attackers from hitting the most valnurable vehicles...namely the fuel trucks. By using pressure plates against convoys one would usually hit the first car in the convoy which always is a MRAP. The terrain in Somalia and Iraq are very similar in that it is mostly flat with I would guess high visibility hence the effectiveness of a jammer.
@ Ole Nkarei
We always stopped in the case of an IED attack to asses the damage. Air support was always a few minutes away and we really believe in the 'no man left behind' doctrine

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Post  Risasi Sat Jan 07 2012, 11:37

Al Bashir wrote:
Risasi wrote:second wave of air strikes going on

We salute you and other fellow uniformed guys for your service. God bless Kenya.

Now, any chance you could talk to those "villagers" for some new videos? Will really appreciate!

Villager was not in action this time around. i will try to post my own under the weather peace patrols

@jas i recommend you look for a documentary called Speed and Angels. It’s on the net, some few clips are on youtube...


Some clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0CT8KkjJE0
in the above clip a F-14 Tomcat does a training chase with an F-5. The skilled F-5 pilot uses the power engines the advantage of the F-14 (an aircraft a notch below the F-15), to his own advantage by making the F-14 pilot accelerate and climb 2:08sec in a chase then sends him in a dive 2:08sec By this time the F-14 had gained a high kinetic energy( i.e from the rapid climb followed by an instant dive) finally making him hit the ground 2:30sec. an imagination deck/floor at 5000feet any flight below that is equated as a crash into the ground. the training was a one way chase, I believe if it was a open dogfight, there were incidents that the F-5 could have taken out the F-14. cheers good luck

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4KzzfwXJVg

get the entire documentary to appreciate the skills.
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Post  Batian Sat Jan 07 2012, 16:14

ole Nkarei wrote:
areba wrote:ow? i was just aggregating media from all and sundry, thats bad? news reports, opinion pieces , video matter ... the kind... look again, unless that offers free tactical advantage to someone.. yes? no?

Al-Shabaab is heavy all over social media. Very real risks of an aggregation, misinformation. And the MIC chaps are really switched on to that, you know Collins!! Just let this slide for the present, allow Mission Rigidity to establish. We shall analysis Operation Linda Inchi together for many years, and teach it in Military Schools for many more years!!

Chill, brother.

I wish OLN in somalia would be a short and precise operation, because Col. Oguna (IO) says they KDF will be there @ Somalia as long as they have to, in order wipe out alshabaab threat. But, given the factors below, I think the army should work from a standpoint of historical events.

First, Currently , kDF is pursuing the alshabaab militia with local militia allied to the TFG e.g ras kamboni. The problem is, we have witnessed that the birth of such unity will be a cause for problems possibly in the future. Therefore, we have seen that such war trends, even on international fronts, needless to raise any alarm, may trigger to new enemy organizations.

Second, it may only create a recurring insurgency. That is why OLN should be objective as possible. All liberated areas should be left under the hands of TFG. We have seen in newspapers where alqaeda have joined the war in the east african region, could be to seek for a place to enhance their manovres. So, with such heightened security alerts, one ponders over the ideas, whether we are any safer than before. Question No
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Post  Guest Sun Jan 08 2012, 08:37

Something momentous happened in Addis a coupla days ago.

Addis reassured about GoK/KDF in GEDO, concerns about Ogadeni put to rest, and now her Army holding position in Beledweyne and not crushing down for Crazy town as earlier feared - Berlin scramble all over again.

KDF now stops forceful drive to encircle Baidoa to cut them off from Crazy town.

UGABAG now can break out north-eastwards into Puntland.

Sammy and the Brits panting in relief.

Had Addis made a stub at Crazy Town.....?? Well... we all can exhale now.

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Post  Spartan Sun Jan 08 2012, 13:53

ole Nkarei wrote:Something momentous happened in Addis a coupla days ago.

Addis reassured about GoK/KDF in GEDO, concerns about Ogadeni put to rest, and now her Army holding position in Beledweyne and not crushing down for Crazy town as earlier feared - Berlin scramble all over again.

KDF now stops forceful drive to encircle Baidoa to cut them off from Crazy town.

UGABAG now can break out north-eastwards into Puntland.

Sammy and the Brits panting in relief.

Had Addis made a stub at Crazy Town.....?? Well... we all can exhale now.

Is there any interest in AMISOM going to Puntland? Thought Al Shabaab has no forces there. This whole thing will eventually be settled by Somalis themselves, however hopeless that may sound.

I continue to read about the mistrust between Ethiopia and KDF. Here's my five cents, if KDF or Ethiopia are in Som for anything other than the defeat of AS and pacification of that country, we are damned.
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Post  Guest Sun Jan 08 2012, 15:19

Spartan wrote:

Is there any interest in AMISOM going to Puntland? Thought Al Shabaab has no forces there. This whole thing will eventually be settled by Somalis themselves, however hopeless that may sound.


I continue to read about the mistrust between Ethiopia and KDF. Here's my five cents, if KDF or Ethiopia are in Som for anything other than the defeat of AS and pacification of that country, we are damned.

You are right in your second supposition about this hopelessly convoluted Somalian piece. We are all aware of the inherent risks of inadvertent contact, and AS is more than we all are - see how they have withdrawn in the face of Ethiopian forces in large swathes cutting right down to Baidoa and south-westerly, and pivoting north-easterly off Beledweyne generally facing Crazy town!! Obviously trying to suck them and KDF along likely contact points.

It would be naive to imagine that dusting the AS is all there is to this dance, Spartan. I reckon we must all not get too greedy.

As the Juba/Gedo/ Mogadishu gradually are sanitized, AS is flooding across into Puntland and beyond, finding consort with the AS-sponsoring Pirates prevalent there taking advantage of the mouth of the Red Sea -Gulf of Aden . and access to ready supplies across the channel in Yemen. Puntland has little capacity to resist any armed intrusion the like of AS. Some crazy chap called Atom-something-or-other appears to being assimilitated into the AS push into Puntland. So, AMISOM must break out (soon, dammit) and fan out into the Puntland if this job is to be done to completion - allow the AS to funnel out of Somalia into the Yemen, and get ''someone else'' to deal with them in Yemen!!

Voila tous!!

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Post  jasiri Tue Jan 10 2012, 14:16

mJESHI mMOJA wrote:Happy New Year

KDF boost up its self propelled artillery pieces
2S1 Gvozdika SPH 122 mm, 12 pieces Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_poCCSeVc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlC1S2njEms&feature=endscreen&NR=1

2S3 Akatsiya M2 SPH 152 mm, 12 pieces Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f6o_YV0XME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PZnWtZU870&feature=related

Source UNITED NATIONS REGISTER OF CONVENTIONAL ARMS
Im still asking myself if we need this museum types! seriously?

A while back there was a story in the papers about an army guy who was arrested in connection with the N.E.P grenade attacks. DO WE HAVE AL SHABAB ELEMENTS WITHIN OUR OWN MILITARY?

@Risasi thanks for the heads up, will do.
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Post  one man army Wed Jan 11 2012, 06:18

K.D.F IN ACTION!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kYeKi11YMmM

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Post  mashaa Wed Jan 11 2012, 08:57

https://youtu.be/l4KzzfwXJVg



https://www.youtube.com/embed/M7pMZZr9rj8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

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Post  mashaa Wed Jan 11 2012, 09:12



https://youtu.be/HTo6sm0MGZA

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Post  countersniper Wed Jan 11 2012, 12:25

there are reports that alshabab has killed seven kenyan kdf and destroyed two APCS.
WHATs happening to the air cover?
any action on the seafront?
the kenya navy is very quietsince december...what is going on?
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Post  countersniper Wed Jan 11 2012, 13:33

one kdf man killed as this reporter embeded with kdf shows them coming under live fire

http://www.citizennews.co.ke/news/2012/local/item/344-kenya-at-war-ambush-at-beles
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Post  Olekoima Wed Jan 11 2012, 17:18

]quote="cdestroyed two APCS.
ountersniper"]there are reports that alshabab has killed seven kenyan kdf and WHATs happening to
the air cover?
any action on the seafront?
the kenya navy is very quietsince december...what is going on?[/quote
]

Where did you get those reports from? They are probably from Al Shabbabs propaganda machine.
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Post  mashaa Wed Jan 11 2012, 19:25

countersniper wrote:one kdf man killed as this reporter embeded with kdf shows them coming under live fire

[url=http://www.citizennews.co.ke/news/2012/local/item/344-kenya-at-war-ambush-at-beles
http://www.citizennews.co.ke/news/2012/local/item/344-kenya-at-war-ambush-at-beles[/quote[/url]]

That is something,i can only imagine how the journalist felt.This is surely the new Kenya such footage would have been unheard of before. God speed to our men and women in the frontline.

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Post  one man army Thu Jan 12 2012, 04:34

Nice footage guys.Kudos to the k.d.f Quite impressive how fast air support is brought to bear after the commencement of the fire fight.Like any other war monger in this region,al shabab convinced themselves and bragged that the "inexperienced" k.d.f would be easy to beat and inflict heavy damage that would make kenya think again.Like any other war criminals,they touted their experience by getting in the bush and firing in no particular direction,just sprays and sprays, but now they are all welcomed to the "k.d.f military academy" where they are now learning that experience is not owning r.p.g.s and ak47s and knowing how to fire them.Am really surprised at the rate they are surrendering given that they have vowed to be martyrs.lets wait and see.

On a seperate note the journalist is sweating the "thin sweat" and look scared in this footage while k.d.f guy is so calm even smiling at the sound of al shabab gunfire.incredible.

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Post  one man army Thu Jan 12 2012, 11:50

Hai guys i know this forum is not necessarily about economic and development matters but there is some information i would like to share from a forum i attended about Kenya vision 2030.It begs me to say from the current economic status of this region am obliged to say Kenya and Ethiopia seem to be the only normal countries around here.As a matter of fact and not withstanding huge development projects being undertaken in Ethiopia,Kenya seems to be doing very well vs other countries in so several areas.For example,in revenue collection,Kenya collects more than 7 billion u.s dollars per year while the closest country Ethiopia with twice Kenya population collects a little over 4 billion dollars.Other countries Uganda,Tanzania,Burundi,Rwanda are insignificant.Power generation the same.As of now kenya produces more than twice kwhtz compared to Ethiopia.(However with huge dams construction in Ethiopia,they are really coming up).Note that Kenya too is staying ahead by underway construction of the largest wind turbine power generation in Africa plus the already heavy construction of steam power plants in ol karia and baringo.When it comes to roads,the same case applies.Kenya has twice the network of roads compared to Ethiopia,more paved and more under construction.
Guys Kenya is on the move and should we stick to vision 2030 and construct mentioned resort cities and infrastructure,we will be the shining city in the hill.Everything seem to be going according to plan with passanger rail network and stations already in place.
Go kenya go.

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Post  MWAURA Thu Jan 12 2012, 12:28

one man army wrote:Hai guys i know this forum is not necessarily about economic and development matters but there is some information i would like to share from a forum i attended about Kenya vision 2030.It begs me to say from the current economic status of this region am obliged to say Kenya and Ethiopia seem to be the only normal countries around here.As a matter of fact and not withstanding huge development projects being undertaken in Ethiopia,Kenya seems to be doing very well vs other countries in so several areas.For example,in revenue collection,Kenya collects more than 7 billion u.s dollars per year while the closest country Ethiopia with twice Kenya population collects a little over 4 billion dollars.Other countries Uganda,Tanzania,Burundi,Rwanda are insignificant.Power generation the same.As of now kenya produces more than twice kwhtz compared to Ethiopia.(However with huge dams construction in Ethiopia,they are really coming up).Note that Kenya too is staying ahead by underway construction of the largest wind turbine power generation in Africa plus the already heavy construction of steam power plants in ol karia and baringo.When it comes to roads,the same case applies.Kenya has twice the network of roads compared to Ethiopia,more paved and more under construction.
Guys Kenya is on the move and should we stick to vision 2030 and construct mentioned resort cities and infrastructure,we will be the shining city in the hill.Everything seem to be going according to plan with passanger rail network and stations already in place.
Go kenya go.
Actually Ethiopia is riven by separatism. Nearly each ethnic group wants to secede. The KRA,could,should really be collecting an extra 3bn$ yearly-minimum. The definite signs of real growth are what have worried the regional pretenders. Look at M7. 26 years in power and after ALL THIS TIME CAN HE POINT AT ANY REAL DEVELOPMENT?? Their largest milk processor is a fraction of Brokside producing a mere 60,000 litres daily. It has also been proven Uganda's impressive GDP growth in the 90s was illusion.
Tall thin man is praised to the skies but look at his growth model. Local auxiliary and errand boy for the Anglojews with a facade of ICT giving the gloss of modernity on a basically remote backward Stalinist society.
We do have our problems,but are headed in the right direction.

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Post  one man army Thu Jan 12 2012, 12:56

Right on the money Mwaura.I was stunned by real numbers fro different sectors.I cannot type everything that was laid on the table from transportation,number of airports with paved runways,the percentage of industrial out put,the export vs imports and ooh boy,like you said we have our own major problems but even as the situation stand now we are the first best hope of the larger Eastern Africa and these other countries don't even come close.After the upcoming elections and commencement of implementation of new constitution ensuring resources are distributed to the much neglected North and with opening up of the area with the construction of the major highway to Ethiopia,no doubt this will be the beginning of something big ahead.
Tom likes to say we are Kenyan and i agree.
The other day someone on this forum questioned the wisdom of acquiring the just arrived 122 mm artillery pieces from Ukraine and looking at where things are headed i can now configure the equation as to why all these weapons and military infrastructure upgrade is under going.The "bigger" Kenya must be capable to guard herself.

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Post  countersniper Thu Jan 12 2012, 12:59

i read with dismay about these attacks in wajir.
all security personnel in kenya must understand that we are war..alshabab will do anything to kill kenyansanywhere.
we are at war
we are at war
we are at war
i find it amazing that security officers working in these border towns are not taking precautions and acting as if things are normal and going to bed at night as if they are on holyday
it is pathetic.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000049872&cid=4&ttl=Five%20killed%20in%20Wajir%20AP%20camp%20attack
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Post  MWAURA Thu Jan 12 2012, 15:49

one man army wrote:Right on the money Mwaura.I was stunned by real numbers fro different sectors.I cannot type everything that was laid on the table from transportation,number of airports with paved runways,the percentage of industrial out put,the export vs imports and ooh boy,like you said we have our own major problems but even as the situation stand now we are the first best hope of the larger Eastern Africa and these other countries don't even come close.After the upcoming elections and commencement of implementation of new constitution ensuring resources are distributed to the much neglected North and with opening up of the area with the construction of the major highway to Ethiopia,no doubt this will be the beginning of something big ahead.
Tom likes to say we are Kenyan and i agree.
The other day someone on this forum questioned the wisdom of acquiring the just arrived 122 mm artillery pieces from Ukraine and looking at where things are headed i can now configure the equation as to why all these weapons and military infrastructure upgrade is under going.The "bigger" Kenya must be capable to guard herself.
After the waste of the Nyayo years,we're finally back on a national trajectory to a better place. Its so obvious ,I don't waste time with naysayers claiming we're a failed state in perpetual collapse.Even the UN says as much:
"According to a UN report, Kenya had the largest shift of population
from low to middle class of any nation in the period spanning 2004 and
2009, a factor that led to new housing developments falling behind
demand at some point.
"
http://allafrica.com/stories/201201120627.html
IMHO, we need to do an Azania/Jubbaland type operation in the Eastern DRC and secure the area for themselves;in return the Congolese will finally get security. Then we'll be a fcuking Kuwait!! Imagine all that mineral wealth;everything in the periodic table including oil! I'm serious-not today or tomorrow,of course,but possibly within the 10 years. Its incumbent to upgrade the KDF. I see such a move alarming the Anglojews and their proxies,the French and even the Chinese,upset at the loss of their strategic mineral store,but such is life.
Anyone criticising the new SP artillery needs to see a map of the new Kenyana and be aware of our budgetary limitations. Countersniper,unfortunately not everybody is serious in this life.

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Post  Flying Crane Thu Jan 12 2012, 17:42

don,t forget to add this in your beloved clips

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501710_162-57357654/group-security-forces-abusing-somalis-in-kenya/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CBSNewsGamecore+(GameCore%3A+CBSnews.com)

courtesy of the renowned CBS

Economy , tax etc i know 1Man army wants to put it that we can afford and run the F-15 Evil or Very Mad

@risasi i know the F-14 vs F-5 clip was sending a msg.....he he he. that was a female pilot ( meg )and a trainee. he therefore could take out the F-5
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Post  jasiri Thu Jan 12 2012, 18:12

MWAURA wrote:
Anyone criticising the new SP artillery needs to see a map of the new Kenyana and be aware of our budgetary limitations.
Try this for facts, the 155mm akatsya can fire 4 rounds per min. it can not be air transported by any air asset north of the SAAF, can carry 40 rounds in its ammo storage. the S.A G6-52 can fire 6 rounds per min, at 25km range is capable of simultaneous impact firing, n true to the boer spirit can withstand a mine blast under any wheel. Now unless it is the upgraded Aktsiya 2s3M2 or something, i say we got a raw deal.
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Post  Batian Thu Jan 12 2012, 19:18

countersniper wrote:i read with dismay about these attacks in wajir.
all security personnel in kenya must understand that we are war..alshabab will do anything to kill kenyansanywhere.
we are at war
we are at war
we are at war
i find it amazing that security officers working in these border towns are not taking precautions and acting as if things are normal and going to bed at night as if they are on holyday
it is pathetic.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000049872&cid=4&ttl=Five%20killed%20in%20Wajir%20AP%20camp%20attack

I think very soon you will hear KDF being smoked out of Somalia. We have not had anything concerning kisimayu or Afmadow. we are just seeing KDF being obsessed with Numbers. or could it be KDF has strolled within those regions with ease or negotiations with alshabaab have began in those areas. KDF are experiencing pocket resistance from "alleged" alshabaab local populace. The same scheme that Ethiopia fell out from somalia since 2009 is definately the same scheme i.e. will face KDF.

with regards to the AP @ garrissa, I do not Think they've understood the nature of their assignment quite well. new surroundings in the wilderness does not indicate a camping expedition.
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