Kenya Defence Force

Flying Crane wrote:My kenya brothers I have been following this debate in silence. Its an open secret that Uganda is making pace for yhe Kenyan Military. A good example are the MRAP vehicles. We the Uganda defence force operated the MRAP vehicle for the last 10 years. its now a new item for your country Updf has the Nyala RG31 similar to the ones used by the US miltary in the gulf. The tables have turned UPDF is now the leader in the region.

Mr Crane Ug operates out dated springbucks apc and not Nyalas. Your APC are Ex SA
army donations

All the same we are the first in the region to operate MRAP vehicles.

Flying Crane wrote:
All the same we are the first in the region to operate MRAP vehicles.

Does it really matter if you are? It doesn't change anything or does it?

Flying Crane wrote:
All the same we are the first in the region to operate MRAP vehicles.

FYI the US army and other superpowers also didn’t, have such vehicles when they went into the GULF war and Afgani.. That doesn’t make UG better then them.


http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/pri/2/pro-pro/apv-vpb-eng.asp

Ndugu zangu wakenya, Eritrea a country surviving on Aid has bought the Su30. the so called east African superpower Kenya still dwells on pre historic fighters F-5 and a couple of dummy Hawks. In the coming Kenyan election be rest assured that if kenyans kill each other again UPDF backed by several Su30 will come to pacify your country. Long live the crane.

Flying Crane wrote:Ndugu zangu wakenya, Eritrea a country surviving on Aid has bought the Su30. the so called east African superpower Kenya still dwells on pre historic fighters F-5 and a couple of dummy Hawks. In the coming Kenyan election be rest assured that if kenyans kill each other again UPDF backed by several Su30 will come to pacify your country. Long live the crane.

You really miss the point my dear friend. The fact that poor Eritrea and Uganda can afford such state of the art weaponry should be enough reason to inform you that the same cannot be beyond reach of mighty Kenya. We simply do not have any serious threats at the moment to warrant the misuse of tax payers money buying items that are not of our immediate use. What we have at the moment is adequate for our current use. What is more if we were to engage in a vicious arms race in the region, i doubt whether poor Uganda nor Eritrea will come anywhere near. The real players will be the Sudan and Ethiopia. Don't be deluded by the expected oil boom. You are still a long way from the profits. After all it is not even out of the ground yet. Besides you will still export the commodity through our ports hence pay taxes to us.
Kenyan recent purchase of second hand F-5s is only a stop gap measure, more modern fighter jets are on the way, just watch.

The problem with Mr crane is that he thinks that wars is all about “My thing is bigger then your thing” its not so Crane it involve logistics planning and the training. Have you heard of the saying “an army marches on its stomach”. Those UPDF militia will go hungry beyond Kisumu as you don,t have the logistics for supporting them after a crossover to Kenya. I can also assure you tukizi kwenda na Ug those Su30 will not get a chance to be airborne.

Secondly our GSU squadrons are adequate to contain most armies in the region. Our GSU special squadrons now operate on the latest M16 rifles similar to the ones used by the US marines

mJESHI mMOJA wrote:The problem with Mr crane is that he thinks that wars is all about “My thing is bigger then your thing” its not so Crane it involve logistics planning and the training. Have you heard of the saying “an army marches on its stomach”. Those UPDF militia will go hungry beyond Kisumu as you don,t have the logistics for supporting them after a crossover to Kenya. I can also assure you tukizi kwenda na Ug those Su30 will not get a chance to be airborne.

Secondly our GSU squadrons are adequate to contain most armies in the region. Our GSU special squadrons now operate on the latest M16 rifles similar to the ones used by the US marines

Mjeshi GSU wako na M-16????

Flying Crane wrote:Ndugu zangu wakenya, Eritrea a country surviving on Aid has bought the Su30. the so called east African superpower Kenya still dwells on pre historic fighters F-5 and a couple of dummy Hawks. In the coming Kenyan election be rest assured that if kenyans kill each other again UPDF backed by several Su30 will come to pacify your country. Long live the crane.

risasi are those Eritrean Su30 kweli?

Actually, Eritrea's version of the Sukhoi is the SU-27 similar to Ethiopia's, Mr Flying Crane is just misleading us here. This bird has been in Eritrea's inventory for some time now hence it is not news. The newer version i.e the SU-30MK2 is the one that Uganda is set to receive by trading oil. Algeria too will receive several copies of a different model of SU-30.

Olekoima wrote:Actually, Eritrea's version of the Sukhoi is the SU-27 similar to Ethiopia's, Mr Flying Crane is just misleading us here. This bird has been in Eritrea's inventory for some time now hence it is not news. The newer version i.e the SU-30MK2 is the one that Uganda is set to receive by trading oil. Algeria too will receive several copies of a different model of SU-30.

they is no point of being in denial for your incompetence Kenyans Tz Mig29. Ug su30, Sudan Mig29smt, Ethopia Su27, Eritrea SU27 or SU30 what ever models you call them but they are all 4th generation fighters.

Flying Crane wrote:

Olekoima wrote:Actually, Eritrea's version of the Sukhoi is the SU-27 similar to Ethiopia's, Mr Flying Crane is just misleading us here. This bird has been in Eritrea's inventory for some time now hence it is not news. The newer version i.e the SU-30MK2 is the one that Uganda is set to receive by trading oil. Algeria too will receive several copies of a different model of SU-30.

they is no point of being in denial for your incompetence Kenyans Tz Mig29. Ug su30, Sudan Mig29smt, Ethopia Su27, Eritrea SU27 or SU30 what ever models you call them but they are all 4th generation fighters.

Hey look here Mr Flying Crane. Where in my post do you find denial? I have merely presented facts as they are. Does that amount to any denial? I' am afraid i could be dealing with a non professional here. My apologies though if i' am wrong.
FACT:(1) Uganda's supposed SU-30MK2s are not yet in the inventory same as TZ's MiG 29s, (2) Kenya is similarly shopping for newer birds.
Even if TZ and UG were now armed with 4th generation fighter jets how does that affect Kenya adversely? We are not yet in a state of war.

that crane guy is behaving like a Kid who is whispering to his friends “daddy is going to buy a new car” just because his father has applied for a loan. my friend your father might decide to marry a second wife instead of get the most out of his loan. do you get the point??

Risasi# wrote:Brig. Awour has ditched us. TATAs !!!

Afande now i realise why you distaste the above persona..................
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Military%20procurement%20bosses%20resign%20/-/1056/1055762/-/15a0egv/-/index.html

a prophecy has been fore filled.
Mkikuyu Generals have done more business then they should have.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Military%20procurement%20bosses%20resign%20/-/1056/1055762/-/15a0egv/-/index.html

what is going on in L.A.B?????????Risasi

Risasi are you their ama uli rusha barua pia?

niko bwana there is a lot of mis understanding about the new jets. lakini we are ready for anything. will keep you posted along the week.

jama kama mumeshikwa kubalini tuu

i love the way the kenyan military is invested with coruption.

privileged son wrote:jama kama mumeshikwa kubalini tuu

they is a misconception about the whole idea of the Jordanian F-5

Risasi# wrote:

privileged son wrote:jama kama mumeshikwa kubalini tuu

they is a misconception about the whole idea of the Jordanian F-5

tueleze vizuri whats happening

i feel that there some boys who are being paid by the Standard Media to release silly stories about the force.

to make the war story short....how many of the F-5 atre in operation?

mjeshi and risasi mume waikitu hapa?...........

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000023332&cid=4&

Balozi wrote:to make the war story short....how many of the F-5 atre in operation?

The kenya tigers were bought for tactical reasons. The main aim was to increase the flying hours for our pilots. They were in no means meant to be used as an aggressor fighter although they can if a need be.
These fighters were meant for tactical training more then aggression combat. Some of them are old but in the hands of experience pilots they can be used to simulate Dog fighters, Air attacks to other existing tigers.
I fail to understand why people still condemn them and it was just 6 month ago that they were see flying during the Madaraka day celebrations.
During the 27 Aug events no fixed wing aircrafts Buffalo, Dash and the F-5 flew due to bad weather. This was not a cover up for the incompetence of the F-5 as many people are think.
So let get it straight the objective of the Jordanian fighter was mainly for simulation and pilot handling purposes

nice collections i see 4 choppers

so whats next now after the frying and grillings?

Risasi iko wapi??