kismayu port.

countersniper Fri Feb 24 2012, 21:29

Reports of 8 boats seen entering kismayu transporting foreign fighters.....where is the KDF navy to sink these thugs ??

http://www.africareview.com/News/Foreign+jihadists+sighted+at+southern+Somalia+port/-/979180/1334030/-/37rhpvz/-/index.html

Guest Fri Feb 24 2012, 21:35

Is this not premature? There is no news of a rescue.

The tweet is not very clear. We need more time to see/understand how the story pans out.

About the London conference, methinks Kenya can only emerge stronger after OLN. We have made history as the only country..or one of the few countries if any to have succeeded where the mighty have failed.

As a nation we should walk with our heads held high. They may want to assume us but they know that we are force to reckon with.

Soon we will be able to finance everything we need w/o help from anyone.

We just need to tap on all our resources. And they are many.

Guest Fri Feb 24 2012, 21:43

countersniper wrote:Reports of 8 boats seen entering kismayu transporting foreign fighters.....where is the KDF navy to sink these thugs ??

http://www.africareview.com/News/Foreign+jihadists+sighted+at+southern+Somalia+port/-/979180/1334030/-/37rhpvz/-/index.html

Remember one of the options Maj Chirchir gave AS was something to do with 'disappearing into the Indian Ocean'. Well it seems that is what is happening.

Sources following the events in Kismayu suspect that a number of boats
sailed with at least 100 jihadists to Yemen, across the Gulf of Aden.

They couldn't wait for the Mother of all Battles!

countersniper Fri Feb 24 2012, 21:59

why let them escape and go to regroup elsewhere and possibly come back well rearmed?? just sink them to the bottom of the ocean.there should b no compromises with these guys.

Sierra Kilo Fri Feb 24 2012, 22:21

Reports of 8 boats seen entering kismayu transporting foreign fighters.....

Interesting turn of events, can't believe Kismayu is getting that hot yet no one has attacked them in there. mmmh, candles...they melt due to heat even in the absence of a fire!!!

mbs Fri Feb 24 2012, 23:15

guys you cant maliza them like that. let them pop up back in Yemen where they can be someone elses Headache. The conference in London is not gonna amount to much since most of the stakeholders of Somalia dont buy it. If we 'cant' negotiate with alshabab then i really dont see our next step. This might have been the reason why we didnt push all the way to Kismayu. if we let up on Alshabab then they will go back to Mogadishu and then we will be back to square one. the two morons are not about to land their soldiers in Somalia any soon, they are broke and US are having an election anyway. Same Logic, why kill Osama today when you can you can take him out tomorrow in your own terms. The issue as far as i see it is that KDF managed a feat that the other guys thought was impossible to do. If we cant realize the upcoming projects in Lamu and the region, then the Far East ( the new Economic Giants ) will deal with whoever is in charge. dont forget that all what they want is to ship out resources and not to dabble much in the area. guys please someone tell me why Tanzania aint pulling their weight ? they starting to look like South Africa who hasnt figured out its role in Africa. its like they are shell shocked by events

countersniper Fri Feb 24 2012, 23:43

The problem with TZ is they are slow in everything and are yet to wake up to the realities of 24 hours news and economic cycles.
This is where we beat them hands down...if we can develop our economy to full blown 24 hour cycle...no one in eastern africa kenyana will catch up with us anytime soon.

mashaa Sat Feb 25 2012, 00:12

Kenya expressed its “disappointment” over a decision by donors not to fund its navy, a move that would help it patrol the Somalia coastline.

This emerged as the Kenya’s Defence Forces revealed that it might be up to six months before its soldiers are fully integrated into the African Union Forces in Somalia (Amisom) despite the United Nations endorsement on Wednesday.

The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) approved a plan to integrate some 4,000 Kenyan troops into Amisom. This “rehatting” initiative would save Kenya billions of shillings.

The UN appropriated $304 million to support Amisom in the fiscal year ending this June. However, under the plan endorsed on Wednesday, UN support for Amisom could increase to more than $500 million a year.

But speaking in London, Kenya’s ambassador to the UN Macharia Kamau said the resolution expanding Amisom’s strength does not provide the $10 million in funding for all the equipment Kenya had hoped to receive for four of its Navy vessels operating off the Somalia coast.

Ambassador Kamau told the Nation that Kenya is “disappointed” by that outcome.

“Quarantining the coastline of Somalia is critical to the success of the mission,” he said, adding that the UN resolution, as adopted, will not permit fully such efforts. But he said they were “satisfied” with the decision.

Ms Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN, expressed “regret” that the decision did not include full support for Amisom’s maritime capabilities. But British UN Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant told reporters that the resolution will cover payment for the crew of the four Kenyan ships as well as the fuel for operating them.

“It is only the ancillary costs, in terms of wear and tear of the boats, that will not be included,” Ambassador Grant said.

In Kenya, Amisom and KDF however welcomed the “rehatting” but said it will take up to six months before the two forces are integrated. KDF spokesman colonel Cyrus Oguna said Kenya will draw an agreement with Amisom on how its soldiers will operate.

President Mwai Kibaki is leading the Kenyan delegation to talks on Somalia in the UK

cylon Sat Feb 25 2012, 00:36

mashaa wrote:Kenya expressed its “disappointment” over a decision by donors not to fund its navy, a move that would help it patrol the Somalia coastline.

This emerged as the Kenya’s Defence Forces revealed that it might be up to six months before its soldiers are fully integrated into the African Union Forces in Somalia (Amisom) despite the United Nations endorsement on Wednesday.

The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) approved a plan to integrate some 4,000 Kenyan troops into Amisom. This “rehatting” initiative would save Kenya billions of shillings.

The UN appropriated $304 million to support Amisom in the fiscal year ending this June. However, under the plan endorsed on Wednesday, UN support for Amisom could increase to more than $500 million a year.

But speaking in London, Kenya’s ambassador to the UN Macharia Kamau said the resolution expanding Amisom’s strength does not provide the $10 million in funding for all the equipment Kenya had hoped to receive for four of its Navy vessels operating off the Somalia coast.

Ambassador Kamau told the Nation that Kenya is “disappointed” by that outcome.

“Quarantining the coastline of Somalia is critical to the success of the mission,” he said, adding that the UN resolution, as adopted, will not permit fully such efforts. But he said they were “satisfied” with the decision.

Ms Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN, expressed “regret” that the decision did not include full support for Amisom’s maritime capabilities. But British UN Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant told reporters that the resolution will cover payment for the crew of the four Kenyan ships as well as the fuel for operating them.

“It is only the ancillary costs, in terms of wear and tear of the boats, that will not be included,” Ambassador Grant said.

In Kenya, Amisom and KDF however welcomed the “rehatting” but said it will take up to six months before the two forces are integrated. KDF spokesman colonel Cyrus Oguna said Kenya will draw an agreement with Amisom on how its soldiers will operate.

President Mwai Kibaki is leading the Kenyan delegation to talks on Somalia in the UK

THEY CLEARLY WANT TO USE AMERICAN SHIPS AND FRENCH SHIPS TO DO THE PATROLING THEY THINK THE KENYAN NAVY ISNT ADEQUATE TO PATROL ALL OF SOMALIA LIKE THEY CAN.

countersniper Sat Feb 25 2012, 00:37

More evidence of panic.what is really going on here?
why are these thugs fleeing? i thought they came to somalia and die in the name of their god?
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Al+Shabaab+foreign+fighters+flee+Somalia++/-/1056/1334572/-/10jkfoj/-/index.html

countersniper Sat Feb 25 2012, 00:45

cylon wrote:
mashaa wrote:Kenya expressed its “disappointment” over a decision by donors not to fund its navy, a move that would help it patrol the Somalia coastline.

This emerged as the Kenya’s Defence Forces revealed that it might be up to six months before its soldiers are fully integrated into the African Union Forces in Somalia (Amisom) despite the United Nations endorsement on Wednesday.

The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) approved a plan to integrate some 4,000 Kenyan troops into Amisom. This “rehatting” initiative would save Kenya billions of shillings.

The UN appropriated $304 million to support Amisom in the fiscal year ending this June. However, under the plan endorsed on Wednesday, UN support for Amisom could increase to more than $500 million a year.

But speaking in London, Kenya’s ambassador to the UN Macharia Kamau said the resolution expanding Amisom’s strength does not provide the $10 million in funding for all the equipment Kenya had hoped to receive for four of its Navy vessels operating off the Somalia coast.

Ambassador Kamau told the Nation that Kenya is “disappointed” by that outcome.

“Quarantining the coastline of Somalia is critical to the success of the mission,” he said, adding that the UN resolution, as adopted, will not permit fully such efforts. But he said they were “satisfied” with the decision.

Ms Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN, expressed “regret” that the decision did not include full support for Amisom’s maritime capabilities. But British UN Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant told reporters that the resolution will cover payment for the crew of the four Kenyan ships as well as the fuel for operating them.

“It is only the ancillary costs, in terms of wear and tear of the boats, that will not be included,” Ambassador Grant said.

In Kenya, Amisom and KDF however welcomed the “rehatting” but said it will take up to six months before the two forces are integrated. KDF spokesman colonel Cyrus Oguna said Kenya will draw an agreement with Amisom on how its soldiers will operate.

President Mwai Kibaki is leading the Kenyan delegation to talks on Somalia in the UK

THEY CLEARLY WANT TO USE AMERICAN SHIPS AND FRENCH SHIPS TO DO THE PATROLLING THEY THINK THE KENYAN NAVY ISNT ADEQUATE TO PATROL ALL OF SOMALIA LIKE THEY CAN.

There are were many foreign navies patrolling the Indian oceans off the Somali coastline....but still piracy was happening almost daily in that part of the Indian ocean but it was only after kdf went into Somalia in October 2011 that piracy incidents have been stopped and reduced to almost nil .so it does not make sense to stop funding KDF naval patrols.

countersniper Sat Feb 25 2012, 01:00

This report here says it all ..the western powers want to steal success from Kenya

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000052824&cid=4&story=Kenya%20has%20shown%20world%20Somalia%20can%20be%20saved

cylon Sat Feb 25 2012, 01:01

countersniper wrote:More evidence of panic.what is really going on here?
why are these thugs fleeing? i thought they came to somalia and die in the name of their god?
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Al+Shabaab+foreign+fighters+flee+Somalia++/-/1056/1334572/-/10jkfoj/-/index.html

They are fleeing because they have lost there leaders but there are still some battle hardened AS left in kismayo they are planning something big i tell you

countersniper Sat Feb 25 2012, 01:15

cylon wrote:
countersniper wrote:More evidence of panic.what is really going on here?
why are these thugs fleeing? i thought they came to somalia and die in the name of their god?
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Al+Shabaab+foreign+fighters+flee+Somalia++/-/1056/1334572/-/10jkfoj/-/index.html

They are fleeing because they have lost there leaders but there are still some battle hardened AS left in kismayo they are planning something big i tell you

who is planning some big thing,is it AS or KDF?

cylon Sat Feb 25 2012, 01:18

countersniper wrote:This report here says it all ..the western powers want to steal success from Kenya

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000052824&cid=4&story=Kenya%20has%20shown%20world%20Somalia%20can%20be%20saved

Well its time we left daddy and make our own path. Like we should shock the whole world by building our own new space launch site, and be the first african country to launch a man into space this would boost our economy because everybody in africa would want to launch there satelliites into space this would anger sammy/johnny. We could start our own space federation with the chinese and build our own space station. Imagine kenya could link all of africa with just a single launch it would change the world forever.

cylon Sat Feb 25 2012, 01:24

countersniper wrote:
cylon wrote:
countersniper wrote:More evidence of panic.what is really going on here?
why are these thugs fleeing? i thought they came to somalia and die in the name of their god?
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Al+Shabaab+foreign+fighters+flee+Somalia++/-/1056/1334572/-/10jkfoj/-/index.html

They are fleeing because they have lost there leaders but there are still some battle hardened AS left in kismayo they are planning something big i tell you

who is planning some big thing,is it AS or KDF?

Well KDF is working on a mother of all plans a shock/awe it will get the world attention and it will give us the glory. AS is also planning something very sinster they will target all three fronts starting with the ethopians, the Amisom and finishing off KDF with there last wish.

countersniper Sat Feb 25 2012, 01:40

cylon wrote:
countersniper wrote:
cylon wrote:
countersniper wrote:More evidence of panic.what is really going on here?
why are these thugs fleeing? i thought they came to somalia and die in the name of their god?
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Al+Shabaab+foreign+fighters+flee+Somalia++/-/1056/1334572/-/10jkfoj/-/index.html

They are fleeing because they have lost there leaders but there are still some battle hardened AS left in kismayo they are planning something big i tell you

who is planning some big thing,is it AS or KDF?

Well KDF is working on a mother of all plans a shock/awe it will get the world attention and it will give us the glory. AS is also planning something very sinster they will target all three fronts starting with the ethopians, the Amisom and finishing off KDF with there last wish.

as long they don't do anything big away from the front lines targeting civilians in towns inside mainland Kenya..that is fine.
Hey, where are the big guns on this site? like ole nkarei,risasi etc..to shade some insight on what the fuck is going on..events are unravelling to fast...and still no word on the tweeted rescue of the Kenyan POWs?

Nesta Sat Feb 25 2012, 08:00

Me was thinking, with all this Ethiopia has done this bla bla bla, KDF should storm Afmadow, just to tell the world that yes, we can capture Kismayu, but at our own timing. This will help renew interest in OLN and other nations will know that we are not stuck at all.

Another thing, who is doing the political end of things in Jubaland? Who is bringing the Raskambooni and the TFG troops together? Because my fear is that these guys can easily start fighting themselves together once KDF comes out.

vince Sat Feb 25 2012, 08:51

[/quote]Hey, where are the big guns on this site? like ole nkarei,risasi etc..
From the old good days of chronicle blogging, it's like a trend when the soldiers in the forum go silent, likely something big is going down. Recall sometime before OLN begun? or probably they've just taken RnR from the forum Twisted Evil

Ole Sidai Sat Feb 25 2012, 09:35

vince wrote:

Hey, where are the big guns on this site? like ole nkarei,risasi etc..
From the old good days of chronicle blogging, it's like a trend when the soldiers in the forum go silent, likely something big is going down. Recall sometime before OLN begun? or probably they've just taken RnR from the forum Twisted Evil

[/quote]

They might be out on route match with fsmo.....probably some log race and singing a little! But along the way,they are likely to come across some villagers with green hands who will whisper about the steaming pot heating up at Kissmayoo sending mujahedeen into sailing!

Two days ago I mentioned Yemen and Sudan in relation to being porous and possible smuggle routes. Well,my hope is that freeing enemy can be intercepted for various reasons!!!! Folks, freeing enemy will live to fight another day. Also,watch out for Massawa bound boats! If any boat heads into that direction,then those sailors must be from the regimes inner core because every guy in that land would rather be out at war than be in that nation jail! For sure,that regime got some links with AS.

Analyst Sat Feb 25 2012, 10:39

Am thinking....if surely we got insulted by the UN and the super powers for our act of kindness, the only way toreturn the favor is do it in 'kind'

Originally, OLN had the Azania angle and its likely we might take that angle.....why not capture Kismayo get rid of the militia then form the new country... let the dogs share Mogadishu, Baidoa and the rest of the impoverished Somalia with Al-Qaeda....

I also read a very interesting read on my regular intel feeds http://intelligencebriefs.com/?p=1762, and for sure we are getting less attention for our achievements.

It seems Kismayo has been hit sporadically by KDF....i hear they are within striking range.

cylon Sat Feb 25 2012, 10:46

Analyst wrote:Am thinking....if surely we got insulted by the UN and the super powers for our act of kindness, the only way toreturn the favor is do it in 'kind'

Originally, OLN had the Azania angle and its likely we might take that angle.....why not capture Kismayo get rid of the militia then form the new country... let the dogs share Mogadishu, Baidoa and the rest of the impoverished Somalia with Al-Qaeda....

I also read a very interesting read on my regular intel feeds http://intelligencebriefs.com/?p=1762, and for sure we are getting less attention for our achievements.

It seems Kismayo has been hit sporadically by KDF....i hear they are within striking range.

Again with SIN it is not credible source of intel give us a more approved link.

Analyst Sat Feb 25 2012, 11:32

cylon wrote:
Analyst wrote:Am thinking....if surely we got insulted by the UN and the super powers for our act of kindness, the only way toreturn the favor is do it in 'kind'

Originally, OLN had the Azania angle and its likely we might take that angle.....why not capture Kismayo get rid of the militia then form the new country... let the dogs share Mogadishu, Baidoa and the rest of the impoverished Somalia with Al-Qaeda....

I also read a very interesting read on my regular intel feeds http://intelligencebriefs.com/?p=1762, and for sure we are getting less attention for our achievements.

It seems Kismayo has been hit sporadically by KDF....i hear they are within striking range.

Again with SIN it is not credible source of intel give us a more approved link.

another source here...

http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/post/2727
http://www.criticalthreats.org/somalia/timeline-operation-linda-nchi-october-24-2011
http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/post/2727

SIN analysis unmatched.....SIN is best PR for KDF
http://www.criticalthreats.org/somalia/timeline-operation-linda-nchi-october-24-2011

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Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda AMISOM big winners from London Somalia Conference

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The London Conference was significant, because for the first time it brought together all the international players who have a stake in Somalia, but have been hiding their hand

Last Thursday’s London Somalia Conference has been dismissed as having broken no new ground, and recycling the same tired old rhetoric. Wrong. The big story at the conference was precisely in the photo opportunities, and the actions that the regional players in the region took so that they could look strong on the world stage in London.

The pictures of the London meeting tell the story. The “high table” and front row in the photos was given, in addition to British Prime Minister David Cameron, to the regional power brokers in Somalia. Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, and Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki, the “big boys,” were always together to the right in the front. Burundi’s President Pierre Nkurunziza, was often in a row or two back — by fact of his shyness, not lack of clout on Somalia. And to the left edge, the leader of one of the newer members of Amisom — Djibouti’s President Ismael Omar Guelleh.

In most of the photos, Museveni wears the arrogant bored look of someone who has nothing to prove. It was his moment of vindication.

The June 2011 Somalia Conference in Kampala that extended by one year the life of the Transitional Federal Government, and from which Abdiweli Mohamed Ali emerged as the new prime minister, was definitely more important than the London meet. So was the April 2011 9th Extraordinary Summit of the East African Community heads of state in the Tanzanian capital, Dar es Salaam, that signalled a shift to a more aggressive posture toward the Al Shabaab militants, and was the first high level group anywhere to suggest that the TFG should get an extension.

Nevertheless, the London Conference was significant, because for the first time it brought together all the international players who have a stake in Somalia, but have been hiding their hand.

Secondly, it was an acknowledgement of an important fact — the African Union through its peace-enforcement force Amisom (comprising Uganda and Burundi forces), Kenya, and Ethiopia, had broken the back of what the world had come to view as an intractable problem. And though, as Uganda’s President Yoweri Museveni once said, London represented the continued attempt by the Western powers to grab the glory from a Somalia promise that has been brought about through an “African solution,” it is important that Africa can offer leadership.

At the end of the conference, Oxfam International issued a statement that, while correct in evaluating the outcome in bread and butter terms for the Somalis, curiously failed to note how it would not have happened without the actions by African forces on the ground.

“While we recognise the huge efforts of the UK government to make the conference a success, what we had hoped for was a recognition that 20 years of internationally imposed solutions have failed. However, what we’ve seen once again are externally driven solutions that haven’t worked, aren’t working and will not work.

“We anticipated the conference would offer hope to the millions of people hit by drought and conflict, and support to build a peace process that included a wide section of Somali society. What we got was the rhetoric of Somali inclusion but you cannot go forward with a new constitution and elections in such a troubled country without a wide and inclusive political engagement within Somali society.”

A sarcastic and dismissive report in the New York Times said, “Here on the ground, in scorching-hot Somali villages like Tabda, where people live in twig huts and stagger from shady spot to shady spot to avoid the wrath of the sun, there is laughing disbelief that any conference 4,000 miles away will solve anything.”

On the ground, though, the belligerents were fighting to milk the approaching conference for good headlines, and to position for a good seat at the table in a year or so, when optimists say most parts will “at least be half-stable.”

The Shabaab, who were pushed out of all districts of Mogadishu by the Ugandan and Burundian Amisom troops last year, made a spirited attempt to retake the city with their boldest offensive in months, and a string of terrorist bombs to make it seem ungovernable. President Museveni and Burundi’s Pierre Nkurunziza, not wanting to show up in London with egg on their faces, threw everything they had back at the Shabaab — and prevailed.

The TFG, especially Prime Minister Ali, went into a flurry of activity to show they were on top of the situation. Mr Ali also seems to have been aware that how he played his moment on the stage in London could secure him a future job as Somalia’s CEO. For the first time in 20 years, roads were marked and new street signs put up in Mogadishu. The government and Amisom then put out statements that, together with things like making the beaches safe enough for Mogadishuans to go and frolic for the first time in many years, were evidence that the city had finally returned to normal.

But it was Ethiopia, Kenya, and US President Barack Obama who perhaps played the most interesting game. Having lost face in the 2006 Ethiopian invasion, and having re-entered the fray late after Kenya’s foray in October 2011, Prime Minister Meles Zenawi sought a victorious entry in London. Two days to the start of the conference, Ethiopian troops in Somalia, together with some TFG forces, took the approaches to Baidoa, an Al Shabaab stronghold, and once the base of the TFG parliament.

A few hours before the conference started, the Ethiopians blitzed the city; the Shabaab scattered, and Zenawi had his triumphant headlines of the capture of Baidoa. He could afford to be cocky in London. Kenya did the opposite. It avoided capturing Kismayu port, inviting snide comments about the “snail’s pace” at which its campaign was proceeding. However, the Kenya army had been applying the squeeze on this most precious of Al Shabaab’s prizes, having choked off exports of charcoal to the Middle East and snuffed out the militant’s last source of rich resources, days after it had announced that it had formally joined Al Qaeda.

But Kenya was seeking an even bigger trophy. Afraid of being financially bled by holding down Kismayu for a long period and paying for it from its own pocket, Nairobi all but blackmailed the UN. It showed it could control events in Kismayu, and by actions suggested, “We can take Kismayu, but we need to know that the international community will pay for it. So how much do you want it?”

Though the African Union had voted to “re-hat” the KDF as Amisom, that was not enough, because the AU doesn’t have money to pay for Amisom. It gets it from the UN and Nato. The UN blinked first. On the eve of the London conference, the UN Security Council voted to unanimously authorise an increase in the Amisom force, from 12,000 to 17,700 and expand its areas of operation.

As the icing on the cake, it followed the Kenyan lead and also ordered a ban on the export and import of charcoal from Somalia, calling the fuel “a significant revenue source” for the Shabaab. The Somalia government banned the export in January 2011, and a few weeks later arrested 14 Indians in Mogadishu whom of it accused of breaking the export ban. With the UN ban, for the first time charcoal has become an international issue.

With the UN Security Council vote secured, Secretary-General Ban ki-Moon could travel to London, comfortable in the knowledge that he would not be embarrassed by criticism that the organisation was dragging its feet on Somalia.

The morning after the conference, reports came in from Kismayu that about eight boats had docked there, and taken out 300 foreign Al Shabaab militants to Yemen. Whether that signalled that Kenya had started the final onslaught on the port city, now that the UN vote was in the bag, will soon be clear.

Days earlier, Kenya Defence officials told The EastAfrican that Nairobi was planning to enter into talks with the US to let it have some of the weapons from its recently ended Iraq deployment. When late news came that US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton was travelling to London for the conference, and that the usually reticent President Kibaki, who is not a great fan of travel to the UK, was also going, speculation broke out that he and Clinton were to negotiate the “Iraq deal.”

For Clinton, President Obama had taken care of a difficult matter in Somalia at the end of January. An American aid worker, Jessica Buchanan, together with a Danish colleague, Poul Hagen Thisted, had been held hostage by militants inside Somalia since October 25, 2011. Obama authorised an operation in which US special forces, the SEALS, stormed a hideout in which militants were holding the hostages, killed nine of them, and flew them out to safety in waiting helicopters.

In 2007, in an action that was both hailed and denounced as the move of a crazy despot, Museveni became the first African president to send troops into Somalia under the Amisom hat. Burundi surprised even more when some months later, it also sent in a contingent. The price in lives for Burundi and Uganda’s troops has been high, but Museveni’s gamble has paid off.

Bigger and many times richer, continental powers like Nigeria, South Africa, and Egypt remained frozen into inaction as Burundi stole the glory. Little wonder then that in the London photos, Nigeria’s President Goodluck Jonathan is not in the front row with the Musevenis, Kibakis, and Zenawis. He is in the second. The line-up at the conference gave a brief peek of what part of the present Africa power A-list looks like.

Without the February 23 date for the London conference, many of the things that have happened around Somalia in the past three months, would have taken another six to 12 months; if at all.

cobbo@ke.nationmedia.com & twitter@cobbo3

An interesting article by Charles Onyango Obbo. Seems to reinforce what Ole Nkarei has been saying all along.

Risasi Sat Feb 25 2012, 20:24

Gives us time kidogo we rack our brains ….we want to see how we can play Chinese ehh, Genge, mosquito , kuku, slide (anybody who knows the name of that ka song) deep in the walalo land…. afro

with the limited resources... Had it been my call I would have withdraw and hand over to AMISOM. Any way its not…KDF is guilty of the following accounts drinking tea with Mr Woo, embarrassed the hands that once feed him by standing with out asking for permission and proving to small third world nation that indeed cheap arms combined with brains is all that takes. Its fine lets pay the price and move on hiyo ndiyo kuwa mwanaune kupambana na shida zaki dunia.
Gives me more reason to vie for the JF-17 It wakes all my drowned desire…..all we wanted was compensation in part and subsidized arms. which peanuts in their spheres ….

@ cyclon…carbon radar tech. is feasible, all you need is energy that can bounce of the Co2 exhaust emission and your done . but the down side is, its easier and cheap to spoof that radar.
1. fire or make flares that have similar carbon emission and hence spoofing your radar with many false contact.
2. its also easy to make engine with an air bypass for mixing air with the exhaust gases in order to get the natural CO2/air ratio of 0.039% . Make the engine smoke lean.

countersniper Sat Feb 25 2012, 21:19

unlike KDF.who are being treated as liberators and heroes by Somali locals ..the Americans are paying the price for pretending to have knowledge of local conditions in KABUL..and yet the blunder of one American commanding officer who ordered that Korans confiscated from prisoners be burnt has in one single action turned the entire afghan population against the entire NATO forces..in Afghanistan...the power of the NATO guns alone cannot quell this anger.
..all the gains made are now unraveling fast with people demonstrating all over the afghan countryside..
KDF a small supposedly poor force has tamed the entire south Somali such that insurgents who are unable to infiltrate are now fleeing back to Yemen while the locals fete KDF as brothers and friends.

countersniper Sat Feb 25 2012, 22:46

Kenyas military spokesman COLONEL OGUNA has drawn the line in the sand.
says Kenyan combat forces in Somalia will be commanded by a Kenyan .PERIOD.
He also says Kenyan forces under amisom will deploy to serve in those areas which directly affect Kenyan security.so it means the attempt by AU to give sector two from Ethiopian to to Ugandan and Burundi amisom soldiers is being resisted.
Also says kdf is the only force that has been able to beat alshabab "who are in reverse gear".where other military adventures have previously not succeded in Somalia, and has taken over an area of over 95,000 square kilometers which is more than the size of Rwanda and Burundi combined.
i love this.so let the politicians in Kenya take the cue.it seems KDF is not happy at being shortchanged by politicians in this deal.

This video seems to indicate an angry kdf spokesman who is keen to sent a robust message to the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxDbv36Ncf8&feature=player_embedded

cylon Sun Feb 26 2012, 00:03

Risasi wrote:Gives us time kidogo we rack our brains ….we want to see how we can play Chinese ehh, Genge, mosquito , kuku, slide (anybody who knows the name of that ka song) deep in the walalo land…. with the limited resources... Had it been my call I would have withdraw and hand over to AMISOM. Any way its not…KDF is guilty of the following accounts drinking tea with Mr Woo, embarrassed the hands that once feed him by standing with out asking for permission and proving to small third world nation that indeed cheap arms combined with brains is all that takes. Its fine lets pay the price and move on hiyo ndiyo kuwa mwanaune kupambana na shida zaki dunia.
Gives me more reason to vie for the JF-17 It wakes all my drowned desire…..all we wanted was compensation in part and subsidized arms. which peanuts in their spheres ….

@ cyclon…carbon radar tech. is feasible, all you need is energy that can bounce of the Co2 exhaust emission and your done . but the down side is, its easier and cheap to spoof that radar.
1. fire or make flares that have similar carbon emission and hence spoofing your radar with many false contact.
2. its also easy to make engine with an air bypass for mixing air with the exhaust gases in order to get the natural CO2/air ratio of 0.039% . Make the engine smoke lean.

But you see i came up with a solution months ago that would make it easier to track.I cannot reveal just yet but if you hear news of jet fuel changing with a more fuel efficient one then my plan is working.

Guest Sun Feb 26 2012, 02:36

@Olekoima

That article makes excellent read.

Ole Nkarei has been saying it all along. Hats off!

Now this is interesting;

But Kenya was seeking an even bigger trophy. Afraid of being
financially bled by holding down Kismayu for a long period and paying
for it from its own pocket, Nairobi all but blackmailed the UN. It
showed it could control events in Kismayu, and by actions suggested, “We
can take Kismayu, but we need to know that the international community
will pay for it. So how much do you want it?”

Seems KDF did it's homework well.

And here's my favourite!
On that pic look at M7. See the look on his face> My my...a picture is worth 1000 words.
Is the the guy he is looking at Johnie?

M7 is really close to Mzee n Zenawi...but see the gap from the guy I think is Johnie...Like don't touch me!

Olekoima Sun Feb 26 2012, 10:41

rwigi wrote:@Olekoima

That article makes excellent read.

Ole Nkarei has been saying it all along. Hats off!

Now this is interesting;

But Kenya was seeking an even bigger trophy. Afraid of being
financially bled by holding down Kismayu for a long period and paying
for it from its own pocket, Nairobi all but blackmailed the UN. It
showed it could control events in Kismayu, and by actions suggested, “We
can take Kismayu, but we need to know that the international community
will pay for it. So how much do you want it?”

Seems KDF did it's homework well.

And here's my favourite!
On that pic look at M7. See the look on his face> My my...a picture is worth 1000 words.
Is the the guy he is looking at Johnie?

M7 is really close to Mzee n Zenawi...but see the gap from the guy I think is Johnie...Like don't touch me!

Yes and also the fact that Kenya is negotiating to get some of the US arms that were being used in Iraq. This is what Ole Nkarei told us earlier in his posts.

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