Kenya Defence Forces (KDF)

timoh wrote:http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/
seems to me, the zulus are well equiped in all fronts(manufacturing defence industry)

countersniper wrote:

Cycoh 'DUDUS' wrote:@Countersniper Bwana, You in close-proximity?

Cycoh 'DUDUS' wrote:@Man-with-the-Golden-Gun, Do you have any information on the possible purchase of some choppers for our "Utumishi-kwa-wote" chaps? Recent activities from 'insyders' shows a well-watered anticipation to get some birds. Some flyboys are undergoing training in RSA, -1 chopper last year- a gap waiting for refilling, ..ecetra.

Please share if any.

i have been invited to an airshow early next month second week of July. am told lots top level big wigs from kenyana... including Kenya itself will be there as per specific invitation.
i will make sure i carry my camera and will post here what will be able to capture.
i have a whole day to see the static displays and later the air activities.
my two young lads are waiting for the day with a great anticipation.
about the utumishi wings.. things are in the middle of the pipeline am told there is a stop gap period of six to 10 months where by some deliveries will be made for them. watch the space.

jasiri wrote:@ Risasi you'd be amazed at the number of pics of KDF-AF that find its way to Facebook alone. The picture of the said young eagle has been in FB since at least August last year. There's also one of a guy doing his pre-flights on an F-5, full face pic!
Separately, i am amazed that no one has noticed this (or comented) yet. KDF-AF Tigers have a new camouflage. Yes, an arid type camo. This may be the biggest confirmation of the presence of Eagles, i.e if tigers have changed camo to arid ground, who has the low visibility air camo?
Saw KNS Jasiri at the oil wharf today, surprised it still has no main gun to date! @Mjeshi you are not giving the lady a stick to protect herself?
@ Risasi, hii ni yako. I hear the wizard of "Oz" may be calling 'Downwind 07' soon .

Risasi wrote:

jasiri wrote:@ Risasi you'd be amazed at the number of pics of KDF-AF that find its way to Facebook alone. The picture of the said young eagle has been in FB since at least August last year. There's also one of a guy doing his pre-flights on an F-5, full face pic!
Separately, i am amazed that no one has noticed this (or comented) yet. KDF-AF Tigers have a new camouflage. Yes, an arid type camo. This may be the biggest confirmation of the presence of Eagles, i.e if tigers have changed camo to arid ground, who has the low visibility air camo?
Saw KNS Jasiri at the oil wharf today, surprised it still has no main gun to date! @Mjeshi you are not giving the lady a stick to protect herself?
@ Risasi, hii ni yako. I hear the wizard of "Oz" may be calling 'Downwind 07' soon .

are taking about this picture?
http://www.kenyanlist.com/kls-listing-show.php?id=102027
its not that one . ile crane posted was a flight check on a T-38

about the above bird its a diamond DA-42 4seated trainer. the air craft has been modified to a 4 seated surveillance aircraft by adding a surveillance camera on it nose diamond DA-42MP. at the moment 4pcs are in the country with for BA training at nanyuki for training http://www.diamond-executive.aero/showkb.php?org_id=514&kb_id=37938
due to it light weight because of its compost structure it has been upgraded to remote control surveillance aircraft. i.e UAV. by an isreali company and designated as a Dominator II
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/21792623.png

Risasi wrote:

jasiri wrote:@ Risasi you'd be amazed at the number of pics of KDF-AF that find its way to Facebook alone. The picture of the said young eagle has been in FB since at least August last year. There's also one of a guy doing his pre-flights on an F-5, full face pic!
Separately, i am amazed that no one has noticed this (or comented) yet. KDF-AF Tigers have a new camouflage. Yes, an arid type camo. This may be the biggest confirmation of the presence of Eagles, i.e if tigers have changed camo to arid ground, who has the low visibility air camo?
Saw KNS Jasiri at the oil wharf today, surprised it still has no main gun to date! @Mjeshi you are not giving the lady a stick to protect herself?
@ Risasi, hii ni yako. I hear the wizard of "Oz" may be calling 'Downwind 07' soon .

are taking about this picture?
http://www.kenyanlist.com/kls-listing-show.php?id=102027
its not that one . ile crane posted was a flight check on a T-38

about the above bird its a diamond DA-42 4seated trainer. the air craft has been modified to a 4 seated surveillance aircraft by adding a surveillance camera on it nose diamond DA-42MP. at the moment 4pcs are in the country with for BA training at nanyuki for training http://www.diamond-executive.aero/showkb.php?org_id=514&kb_id=37938
due to it light weight because of its compost structure it has been upgraded to remote control surveillance aircraft. i.e UAV. by an isreali company and designated as a Dominator II
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/21792623.png

pacifist wrote:I have noted with grave concern that a particular Buffalo aircraft has been making frequent flights over my home. everyday they fly closer and closer to my roof. it could be due to the comments i have made in this forum. Anyway if the aforementioned Buffalo decides to make a drop of some dark guys who have eaten bulls, they are welcome for tea and Nyama choma. I love the sound of the Buffalo engines btw. beautiful bird

pacifist wrote:I have noted with grave concern that a particular Buffalo aircraft has been making frequent flights over my home. everyday they fly closer and closer to my roof. it could be due to the comments i have made in this forum. Anyway if the aforementioned Buffalo decides to make a drop of some dark guys who have eaten bulls, they are welcome for tea and Nyama choma. I love the sound of the Buffalo engines btw. beautiful bird

Olekoima wrote:I still seriously doubt that there will be/ there is a F-15 in Kenya. The most likely scenario in my view is the J-10 or the F-16. It is easier (if we are buying US made) to get the Falcon than the eagle. Matters are even made worse after we elected a man not preferred by the west as president. I know this is business, but these things matter when it comes to US foreign military sales.

Olekoima wrote:I still seriously doubt that there will be/ there is a F-15 in Kenya. The most likely scenario in my view is the J-10 or the F-16. It is easier (if we are buying US made) to get the Falcon than the eagle. Matters are even made worse after we elected a man not preferred by the west as president. I know this is business, but these things matter when it comes to US foreign military sales.

all we know so far is that some western stores on the part of aircraft are presently on location, purchased before the current regime took over and even presented the former C-in-C a flypast opportunity during his farewell march..the best you can do is swear an oath of secrecy with the bulletman and beg the details out of him on which stores are currently available on the side of air superiority

mchoraji wrote:One hell of a parade is slated for 12th of December to commemorate 50th anniversary of our independence.If a proud eagle doesn't fly past the C-in-C on that day, I will take it that 254 has just been bluffing about ownership of the bird

Olekoima wrote:I still seriously doubt that there will be/ there is a F-15 in Kenya. The most likely scenario in my view is the J-10 or the F-16. It is easier (if we are buying US made) to get the Falcon than the eagle. Matters are even made worse after we elected a man not preferred by the west as president. I know this is business, but these things matter when it comes to US foreign military sales.

all we know so far is that some western stores on the part of aircraft are presently on location, purchased before the current regime took over and even presented the former C-in-C a flypast opportunity during his farewell march..the best you can do is swear an oath of secrecy with the bulletman and beg the details out of him on which stores are currently available on the side of air superiority

proud kenyan wrote:

Olekoima wrote:I still seriously doubt that there will be/ there is a F-15 in Kenya. The most likely scenario in my view is the J-10 or the F-16. It is easier (if we are buying US made) to get the Falcon than the eagle. Matters are even made worse after we elected a man not preferred by the west as president. I know this is business, but these things matter when it comes to US foreign military sales.

all we know so far is that some western stores on the part of aircraft are presently on location, purchased before the current regime took over and even presented the former C-in-C a flypast opportunity during his farewell march..the best you can do is swear an oath of secrecy with the bulletman and beg the details out of him on which stores are currently available on the side of air superiority

Okay. let's wait and see then.

mchoraji wrote:One hell of a parade is slated for 12th of December to commemorate 50th anniversary of our independence.If a proud eagle doesn't fly past the C-in-C on that day, I will take it that 254 has just been bluffing about ownership of the bird

Olekoima wrote:I still seriously doubt that there will be/ there is a F-15 in Kenya. The most likely scenario in my view is the J-10 or the F-16. It is easier (if we are buying US made) to get the Falcon than the eagle. Matters are even made worse after we elected a man not preferred by the west as president. I know this is business, but these things matter when it comes to US foreign military sales.

all we know so far is that some western stores on the part of aircraft are presently on location, purchased before the current regime took over and even presented the former C-in-C a flypast opportunity during his farewell march..the best you can do is swear an oath of secrecy with the bulletman and beg the details out of him on which stores are currently available on the side of air superiority
Let's hope so, otherwise....

livefire wrote:From my bench, i dont think those birds are within Kenyana, kwani they train from which thickets? Risasi and company may however be planning to go it big considering what our neighbors possess, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Uganda....
Talking of Kenya turning 50, an active Somalia theater, Omamo and KDF going strategic, whats does the defence budget for the fiscal year 2013/2014 look like?
A good budget posturing will translate to hardware add ons i believe.

mchoraji wrote:One hell of a parade is slated for 12th of December to commemorate 50th anniversary of our independence.If a proud eagle doesn't fly past the C-in-C on that day, I will take it that 254 has just been bluffing about ownership of the bird

Olekoima wrote:I still seriously doubt that there will be/ there is a F-15 in Kenya. The most likely scenario in my view is the J-10 or the F-16. It is easier (if we are buying US made) to get the Falcon than the eagle. Matters are even made worse after we elected a man not preferred by the west as president. I know this is business, but these things matter when it comes to US foreign military sales.

all we know so far is that some western stores on the part of aircraft are presently on location, purchased before the current regime took over and even presented the former C-in-C a flypast opportunity during his farewell march..the best you can do is swear an oath of secrecy with the bulletman and beg the details out of him on which stores are currently available on the side of air superiority

I' am tempted to think like you @ livefire.

Flying Crane wrote:@ON some of the forummers are suffering from chronic inferiority complex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex . even if KE
acquired a nuclear sub, they would find something wrong with that.

p/s don,t bother to much for extreme details

ole Nkarei wrote:Damn right, Crane. Like you, Iam a 'spit & shine' chap and hate indiscipline of every sort. But this soapy, sniveling, self deprecating, 'house-nigga' syndrome in educated Africans most of all. Dammit man, it is unsurprising that Ngugi wa Thiongo, Okoth Bitok, Francis Imbuga, JeanMarie Seroney and their generatiob of creative African intellectuals has not replicated in our present day African Educated. As a consequence Africa sometimes appears to be "marking time"!  That is neither in doubt nor conjecture. The most frustrating manifestation of a tortured prisoner falling in love with the jailor of the millennia is in Africa's educated elite who imagine emancipation to be a snake-like shedding of their African "skin". How else has the white continued his colonization of Africa fifty years after "granting us independence"? Ati "love / hate" syndrome with relationships with Mzungu manifesting African "Envy" of Bazungu? Should Africa just give up striving for a dignified existence for our people and just lay back enjoy the white man's century old rape and pillage of our people? Does it really make sense for an intelligent African to purvey the warped argument that an african child ought not aspire for the same things a British child has (things the British pillage from africa) ati because that manifests the african child's envy / inferiority of / over the British child? Ati wanting equipment for our national defence from the West at the same time proudly pronouncing our independence and dignity is a "envy" of the white man?! I have no gentle words to express my contempt for such notions and the Africans that perpetuate them.

Britain proposal to pay a few of the  survivors of British deliberate and official  Genocidal Imperial actions in Kenya (all in their Eighties and Nineties) £2800 riding on an insultingly and unintelligent, reluctant, 60years-late, unmistakably  insincere unspecific apology - as full closure to this sordid chapter of British History. Libya paid British citizens a whooping $10 million EACH! And this year the same jangling British paid a libyan victim of rendition a muthafeckin' cool £3.6 Million!! WHAT THE FECK?!

Flying Crane wrote:@ON some of the forummers are suffering from chronic inferiority complex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex . even if KE
acquired a nuclear sub, they would find something wrong with that.

p/s don,t bother to much for extreme details

@ ON,
With great respect,
At the onset, I would like to assume that you are on the offense in respect to a certain post somewhere above. I respectively take your gauntlet with civility...For starters, if I want something from Mr. X, I go get it at market price no favors...and if I cannot get it, I chuck the idea and go to Mr. Y who can offer alternatives. If I were to remain at the same shop and keep whingeing and grovelling about how the shopkeeper is unfair and untrustworthy, I  then become a robot "marking time", guilty of the sour grapes syndrome. Whoever told you that anyone who calls out inconsistency is self-deprecating? It is actually the very opposite of what you aver, because, one who dares to call out inconsistency and keep accountability alive in a rigid establishment like this (TEA) is no house-nigger ndugu yangu! How dare you talk about colonization???? As an officer in an army that has kept the Sandhurst and Westpoint traditions, marches like they do, follows the same nomenclature and insignia, still sends staff for top-notch training, even as we write has whole units and barracks set up during colonial times, how? When those fellows you denigrate here need something, THEY GO MAKE IT whatever it takes, when we need something, we import it, at the leisure of the technology owners!, and this is the great sticking point. Africa (and Ngugi and the other giants you named concur), has one tragic consequence as a legacy from the colonial era...a local neo-colonial elite who became the new bwana kubwas and memsaibs but lacked the vision. We are 50 years old now and still arguing about what? These are the scourge that has turned Africa into a continent of hoardes of starving and  sickly people; who but for their skin, could not be differentiated from the most acerbic colonialist and racists. It is a measure of Africa's tragedy that it takes the same mzungu to come and exploit resources that we have been sitting on for eons. Uncle Woo and Mr. Satwant only made strides when they started producing some of what  they needed. SA made strides when they were embargoed and the residual technological advancement is evident. My challenge to you is...Produce what we need by funding top-notch research, for we have the manpower and the military-industrial complex is as good a place to start as any. If for throwing this challenge to you and others of your level, I deserve to be called all the epithets above, then be my guest!

Moozalendo