Kenya Defence Forces (KDF)

KBC channel 1 has started airing a two part series on KDF
Part one:
Part two:

Features the Nora B-52 artillery among others..................lakini sio HD but kudos its a step in the right direction

deconstructor wrote:

Not quite new came during Kibaki's time after the one crashed at juja,its fully Vvip kitted minus the IR nodes under the nose in the others

Mkenya wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

Not quite new came during Kibaki's time after the one crashed at juja,its fully Vvip kitted minus the IR nodes under the nose in the others

Thank you for clarifying that Mkenya. I had thought it was new because previously all I had seen in the media was 1101 which has a round nose. This one has a dolphin nose. Thank you for posting the videos.

deconstructor wrote:

Mkenya wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

 IR nodes under the nose in the others

Thank you for posting the videos.

In the same breath, wen you look at the videos, you will see two species of the Z-9. one with the IR cam on the nose and one which has either lost hers or something happened (the port where the camera should go in appears to have a fresh coat of filler)

to much scrutiny of Air assets eehh  
to add on the above info. Land Arms include two type of Nora. A standard Nora; NORA-B52 KE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JazoawlGhJE  and and improved version Nora B-52K1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6-YvXucEPc#t=12
+ BOV M11 an artillery recce /spotter APC with a RWS. remote weapons station.

The Blue wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

Mkenya wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

 IR nodes under the nose in the others

Thank you for posting the videos.

In the same breath, wen you look at the videos, you will see two species of the Z-9. one with the IR cam on the nose and one which has either lost hers or something happened (the port where the camera should go in appears to have a fresh coat of filler)

 which part of the vid ? that shows  ZW without the IR EO?

Risasi wrote:

The Blue wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

Mkenya wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

 IR nodes under the nose in the others

Thank you for posting the videos.

 (the port where the camera should go in appears to have a fresh coat of filler)

 which part of the vid ? that shows  ZW without the IR EO?

It is in the OLN video posted by Olekoima on the SNA page. you can see the bird with her beak in order on minute 11:42, and then another one on minute 23:37 lands with the IR port coveres in white paint...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEYY4AUjK6E

I also notice the Z-9 have different weapons pods on the left side, the one with the number 581 ARMY has a rockets pod on that side but the 582 ARMY has a machine gun..I do not know what type or what callibre

Hello guys, Seriously i haven't been online for 11 months to come back and see my name being dragged out in the mud. And me being accused for being africaken or deconstructor.  

And wow the this place deteriorated... But i'm glad to see Jasiri, Risasi, Mjeshi Moja and the rest keeping up a nice fruitfully debate.


And for the record I Cylon is and was never associated with the names being thrown around. I'm me and thats that.

Africaken is an innocent bystander who has fallen prey to a vicious assault by the crane. Never since the crucifixion of Christ has such an injustice been perpetuated.

don,t try that silly  nonsense kid cyclone/africaken/deco.
flashing out imposter is my specialty at work. OK?
so again i BEG X2 ,keep your nose clean and continue with mature conversation because if i decide to deal with you and your illicit handles, i will surely do it in a cacophonously way and that my dear will make you feel like the devil is biting your ass. so again and for the last i am telling engage in mature conversation just like the rest of the forummers and as what made you join here initially.

as for now lick your wounds , deactivate the africaken handle, delete it/walk out in pride . shame on you boy.
you think we are blonds stupid not to make out why only two Votes were cased in favor of africaken in the opinion polls.
tuck your tail between your legs and run shooo....

The Blue wrote:

Risasi wrote:

The Blue wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

Mkenya wrote:

deconstructor wrote:

 IR nodes under the nose in the others

Thank you for posting the videos.

 (the port where the camera should go in appears to have a fresh coat of filler)

 which part of the vid ? that shows  ZW without the IR EO?

It is in the OLN video posted by Olekoima on the SNA page. you can see the bird with her beak in order on minute 11:42, and then another one on minute 23:37 lands with the IR port coveres in white paint...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEYY4AUjK6E

I also notice the Z-9 have different weapons pods on the left side, the one with the number 581 ARMY has a rockets pod on that side but the 582 ARMY has a machine gun..I do not know what type or what callibre

ya i see it now , it might have been down for repairs

Sisal Makonge wrote:bad mouth aside , cyclon we are fed up of your chameleonized ways.

lets share some tactical discussion on OLN , what about the 2 new Mbt seen transported from Mombasa, supposedly Merkava ???

tactic hehehheh...and why No T-72, Vickers mbt,  NoraB52  were seen in the main assault...
its not as people think that the weapons were too expensive to use or we weren,t conversant or compliant with them, but the tactics and the formations that spearheaded OLN wouldnt allow them, OLN was conducted in  what were term as Motorized Infantry warfare, Motorized Infantry is a sub -class of the Light Infantry division.
 battle etiquette's  

Historically/in the past
Light infantry as the name suggests were basic foot soldiers that went to the battle on foot, carried limited weapons naturally due to the distance they had to travel. accompanied them was a fire support company/unit .

THE PLAN
in our modernized or Improved Motorized Infantry warefare , the concept is still the same i.e Light infantry with support companies/unit , but now ride In the PUMA OTT MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) for the obvious reasons as battlefield taxis to the war fields  followed/accompanied by support unit   .
in OLN the support were Panhard 90 Light tanks  for "Heavy" direct fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_fire  ,   L118 light guns "Heavy" Indirect fire and Panhard 60 Light Indirect fire [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirect_fire ] + MD500 as air support assets and ZW-9 for recce ,minor ISR roles, night raids. basically that's how OLN was conducted towards Chai town.

P.S
-PUMA OTT not to be confused with WZ551.
-Motorized Infantry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorized_infantry ) not to be confused the Mechanized infantry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanized_infantry )

mechanized infantry in action https://youtu.be/qFIOYjnQz-Q
KDF rapid emergency rescue exercise
so make the long story short OLN was a chapter in Light Infantry warfare, hence the AS were defeated by the lightest armed fighting unit in the KDF. hakuna T-72 hapo or Nora as support units.

The cerebrations took place at 3KR Lanet Nakuru County.

@Africaken , the Members have spoken ,deactivate your handle and leave the forum.

Admin wrote:@Africaken , the Members have spoken ,deactivate your handle and leave the forum.

It is with great sadness to see any member leave. But it is also important to protect the sanctity of respect. Name calling is disgraceful by any definition. An apology cost nothing, neither makes any one inferior. With respect to already set code of conduct, it is my expectation to see this Admin directive be implemented as per majority vote. The vote clear and there is nothing personal. We just need discipline and observe respect as members.

@ admin, please monitor IP address/source.
@ flying crane, thank you for spotting this expositor but also calm down a little. Words define an individual/class.
 
Quick Quip guys: Terror means "fear or ogopa in swahili". So, the World is currently busy fighting "fear...cultural fear and religious/fanatical fear. But we are now faced with Biological fear called Ebola. In my Staff Course in early 2000, I wrote about it thanks to a book called The Hot Zone, by Richard Preston. Hope whole World will not be in a lock down soon!

Risasi wrote:

Sisal Makonge wrote:bad mouth aside , cyclon we are fed up of your chameleonized ways.

lets share some tactical discussion on OLN , what about the 2 new Mbt seen transported from Mombasa, supposedly Merkava ???

tactic hehehheh...and why No T-72, Vickers mbt,  NoraB52  were seen in the main assault...
its not as people think that the weapons were too expensive to use or we weren,t conversant or compliant with them, but the tactics and the formations that spearheaded OLN wouldnt allow them, OLN was conducted in  what were term as Motorized Infantry warfare, Motorized Infantry is a sub -class of the Light Infantry division.
 battle etiquette's  

Historically/in the past
Light infantry as the name suggests were basic foot soldiers that went to the battle on foot, carried limited weapons naturally due to the distance they had to travel. accompanied them was a fire support company/unit .

THE PLAN
in our modernized or Improved Motorized Infantry warefare , the concept is still the same i.e Light infantry with support companies/unit , but now ride In the PUMA OTT MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) for the obvious reasons as battlefield taxis to the war fields  followed/accompanied by support unit   .
in OLN the support were Panhard 90 Light tanks  for "Heavy" direct fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_fire  ,   L118 light guns "Heavy" Indirect fire and Panhard 60 Light Indirect fire [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirect_fire ] + MD500 as air support assets and ZW-9 for recce ,minor ISR roles, night raids. basically that's how OLN was conducted towards Chai town.

P.S
-PUMA OTT not to be confused with WZ551.
-Motorized Infantry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorized_infantry ) not to be confused the Mechanized infantry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanized_infantry )

mechanized infantry in action https://youtu.be/qFIOYjnQz-Q
KDF rapid emergency rescue exercise
so make the long story short OLN was a chapter in Light Infantry warfare, hence the AS were defeated by the lightest armed fighting unit in the KDF. hakuna T-72 hapo or Nora as support units.

That's overkill! Frankly anything above even a z9 would be hard to justify witht he terrain and the AS tactics. The KDF isn't and shouldn't be like America who can deploy an AC-130 in FIBUA!



The political cost of minced civilians and a few AS fighters is too high!
IIRC Nkash said he saw one in action in S Somalia and  it turned the forest into matchsticks!
Admin,ban all cylon/africaken/cylon/decon handles,please. Like someone said,its better to have only 5 respectful members  than many difficult forumers shouting at everyone.

ole sidai wrote:But we are now faced with Biological fear called Ebola. In my Staff Course in early 2000, I wrote about it thanks to a book called The Hot Zone, by Richard Preston. Hope whole World will not be in a lock down soon!

This is simply the latest Anglo Zionist depopulation program! Fyi,Tulani uni of Louisiana biowarfare profs were onsite in Sierra Leone since 2007 'researching' filoviruses. In fact the latest outbreak happened at their 'testing facility' in Kenema.
Also they were specifically ordered at one point to stop 'testing'!

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/sierra-leone-orders-us-bioweapons-lab-at-centre-of-ebola-outbreak-to-be-relocated-tulane-university-to-stop-ebola-testing/ wrote:In a sign that the Sierra Leone goverment has begun to fight back against the orchestrated ebola outbreak, The Ministry of Health and Sanitation announced yesterday it had ordered Tulane University to stop ebola testing and the US bioweapons laboratory at Kenema to be relocated in response to growing anger from locals.
The sensational announcement — posted on the health ministry’s facebook page — strongly suggests the notion that the diagnosis of Ebola using Tulane University kits at Kenema have been found to be  false or faked.
The Kenema bioweapons lab is the only testing centre for ebola in Sierra Leona and holds the highest number of victims. Tulane University conducts bioweapons research on behalf of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID).

I know you know what USAMRIID does. This is just HIV/AIDS 2 which we were told and some still believe began the same way-an infected monkey contaminated a hunter and the virus somehow mutated!

Btw,why do we always hear of bushmeat causing deadly diseases only in Africa? We're not the only bushmeat eaters! Many Asians eat anything with 4,6 and even 8 legs!
Ole Sidai,I'm 80% sure the first Merk 4s have been delivered though I don't have numbers. People will always disbelieve  like the Havocs until they practically land on them!!

allow me  stray the conversation to the left for a minute, i will go mam after that.
@cyclon.african.decon; Jesus,Your mother and the Flying crane loves you the most in this world ,word of advice; avoid the embarrassment sign off, rather than get  kicked out by the Admin

lastly i concur with OLe sidai and Mwaura,  Plus let us also observer when that "new comer" will come  . kick off AFRICAKEN if he tries to sneak in a new handler. we know his talk its all  rubbish and aligned to Deco and Cyclone posts. keep vigilant if you spot suspicious new behaviors, PM the name if necessary, i know how i will handle it from there on.

finally last time i was personally sadden brothers,when one of our Legends ON was gun down by a rascal while prominent members from the Kenyan side (risasi, jasiri , mjeshi, mogen etc) watch on and never came to his aid. we the UPDF don,t condone such practices. we have our difference but don,t allow external aggressions to take the better part of us. we are trained to stand together as one and confront any advisory  in one spirit whatever our ethnically background or misunderstandings are, you wear the uniform you defend the mother land period. so my trainings automatically kicks in in such situations. and for that
@ that member who caused the demise of ON. yes you with several "i" in your handle.....your days are numbered. be sure after all settles down i will conduct a Commission of inquire on the last days of  ON . and if we find you guilty be reset assured i will serve you the justices just like any other African Mongrel and kick your ass out.

if a member or a blogger feels that he served in a first world army be it in Iraq or Afghanistan or elsewhere and our blog is nothing better than a storm in a tea cup compared to his experience , then what then fuck are you doing here?? go join some US army forum and discuss the best ways of dealing with homosexuals in your ranks. and i am not speaking metaphorically.

i close my post

Happy Mashujaa day men and women of the blog. We have been with some of you close to 7 years now and not a word has been said between us in anger, belittling or beratement. You are the Shujaas of this online war council.

Flying Crane wrote:allow me  stray the conversation to the left for a minute, i will go mam after that.
@cyclon.african.decon; Jesus,Your mother and the Flying crane loves you the most in this world ,word of advice; avoid the embarrassment sign off, rather than get  kicked out by the Admin

lastly i concur with OLe sidai and Mwaura,  Plus let us also observer when that "new comer" will come  . kick off AFRICAKEN if he tries to sneak in a new handler. we know his talk its all  rubbish and aligned to Deco and Cyclone posts. keep vigilant if you spot suspicious new behaviors, PM the name if necessary, i know how i will handle it from there on.

finally last time i was personally sadden brothers,when one of our Legends ON was gun down by a rascal while prominent members from the Kenyan side (risasi, jasiri , mjeshi, mogen etc) watch on and never came to his aid. we the UPDF don,t condone such practices. we have our difference but don,t allow external aggressions to take the better part of us. we are trained to stand together as one and confront any advisory  in one spirit whatever our ethnically background or misunderstandings are, you wear the uniform you defend the mother land period. so my trainings automatically kicks in in such situations. and for that
@ that member who caused the demise of ON. yes you with several "i" in your handle.....your days are numbered. be sure after all settles down i will conduct a Commission of inquire on the last days of  ON . and if we find you guilty be reset assured i will serve you the justices just like any other African Mongrel and kick your ass out.

if a member or a blogger feels that he served in a first world army be it in Iraq or Afghanistan or elsewhere and our blog is nothing better than a storm in a tea cup compared to his experience , then what then fuck are you doing here?? go join some US army forum and discuss the best ways of dealing with homosexuals in your ranks. and i am not speaking metaphorically.

i close my post

Why do you keep brining this up. I have told you before and I will tell you again, I AM NOT AFRICAKEN OR CYLON. Please have some maturity and stop.

ole nkarei [ltr]@olenkarei1[/ltr]

TEA marufuku - amri ya Mkuu! But, majamaa wanagoja tuu m-sort hiyo indiscipline ya vijana, ndio waje kwa wingi kunyua Chai nanyi. Tell them. 03:01 PM - 20 Oct 14

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Can we just be cool? this Afriken,cyclon,deconstructor maneno ain't worth it

jasiri wrote:Happy Mashujaa day men and women of the blog. We have been with some of you close to 7 years now and not a word has been said between us in anger, belittling or beratement. You are the Shujaas of this online war council.

Ahsante @jasiri, hope you had a good one.

Do you have any info as to why this vessel has not been escorted out of Kenyan waters by your namesake?

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/thecounties/article/2000138906/alarm-over-foreign-ship-near-beach

MWAURA wrote:

Risasi wrote:

Sisal Makonge wrote:bad mouth aside , cyclon we are fed up of your chameleonized ways.

lets share some tactical discussion on OLN , what about the 2 new Mbt seen transported from Mombasa, supposedly Merkava ???

tactic hehehheh...and why No T-72, Vickers mbt,  NoraB52  were seen in the main assault...
its not as people think that the weapons were too expensive to use or we weren,t conversant or compliant with them, but the tactics and the formations that spearheaded OLN wouldnt allow them, OLN was conducted in  what were term as Motorized Infantry warfare, Motorized Infantry is a sub -class of the Light Infantry division.
 battle etiquette's  

Historically/in the past
Light infantry as the name suggests were basic foot soldiers that went to the battle on foot, carried limited weapons naturally due to the distance they had to travel. accompanied them was a fire support company/unit .

THE PLAN
in our modernized or Improved Motorized Infantry warefare , the concept is still the same i.e Light infantry with support companies/unit , but now ride In the PUMA OTT MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) for the obvious reasons as battlefield taxis to the war fields  followed/accompanied by support unit   .
in OLN the support were Panhard 90 Light tanks  for "Heavy" direct fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_fire  ,   L118 light guns "Heavy" Indirect fire and Panhard 60 Light Indirect fire [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirect_fire ] + MD500 as air support assets and ZW-9 for recce ,minor ISR roles, night raids. basically that's how OLN was conducted towards Chai town.

P.S
-PUMA OTT not to be confused with WZ551.
-Motorized Infantry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorized_infantry ) not to be confused the Mechanized infantry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanized_infantry )

mechanized infantry in action https://youtu.be/qFIOYjnQz-Q
KDF rapid emergency rescue exercise
so make the long story short OLN was a chapter in Light Infantry warfare, hence the AS were defeated by the lightest armed fighting unit in the KDF. hakuna T-72 hapo or Nora as support units.

That's overkill! Frankly anything above even a z9 would be hard to justify witht he terrain and the AS tactics. The KDF isn't and shouldn't be like America who can deploy an AC-130 in FIBUA!



The political cost of minced civilians and a few AS fighters is too high!
IIRC Nkash said he saw one in action in S Somalia and  it turned the forest into matchsticks!
Admin,ban all cylon/africaken/cylon/decon handles,please. Like someone said,its better to have only 5 respectful members  than many difficult forumers shouting at everyone.

ole sidai wrote:But we are now faced with Biological fear called Ebola. In my Staff Course in early 2000, I wrote about it thanks to a book called The Hot Zone, by Richard Preston. Hope whole World will not be in a lock down soon!

This is simply the latest Anglo Zionist depopulation program! Fyi,Tulani uni of Louisiana biowarfare profs were onsite in Sierra Leone since 2007 'researching' filoviruses. In fact the latest outbreak happened at their 'testing facility' in Kenema.
Also they were specifically ordered at one point to stop 'testing'!

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/sierra-leone-orders-us-bioweapons-lab-at-centre-of-ebola-outbreak-to-be-relocated-tulane-university-to-stop-ebola-testing/ wrote:In a sign that the Sierra Leone goverment has begun to fight back against the orchestrated ebola outbreak, The Ministry of Health and Sanitation announced yesterday it had ordered Tulane University to stop ebola testing and the US bioweapons laboratory at Kenema to be relocated in response to growing anger from locals.
The sensational announcement — posted on the health ministry’s facebook page — strongly suggests the notion that the diagnosis of Ebola using Tulane University kits at Kenema have been found to be  false or faked.
The Kenema bioweapons lab is the only testing centre for ebola in Sierra Leona and holds the highest number of victims. Tulane University conducts bioweapons research on behalf of the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID).

I know you know what USAMRIID does. This is just HIV/AIDS 2 which we were told and some still believe began the same way-an infected monkey contaminated a hunter and the virus somehow mutated!

Btw,why do we always hear of bushmeat causing deadly diseases only in Africa? We're not the only bushmeat eaters! Many Asians eat anything with 4,6 and even 8 legs!
Ole Sidai,I'm 80% sure the first Merk 4s have been delivered though I don't have numbers. People will always disbelieve  like the Havocs until they practically land on them!!

So where are they? They have done a good job hiding them then. I have yet to see any of these havocs.

Ole Sidai,I'm 80% sure the first Merk 4s have been delivered though I don't have numbers. People will always disbelieve  like the Havocs until they practically land on them!!

So where are they? They have done a good job hiding them then. I have yet to see any of these havocs.

@ Olekoima. There is every truth to those air and land toys. Havoc is all about the numbers now. They have been there for a while. The Vodka Emperor couldn't part with the Alligator.
Merk 4 is certainly in incubation especially after successful trials in my former play grounds and the strategic relationship that exist. I think the region is headed into the right direction considering resources and ever developing threat matrix. 
@ Risasi, it is time you got some new suites bro! There is NO arguement to that. I would jump into the next flight to witness "kamwana" in his new uniform flagging you off bro. Btw, never seen a C in C in Africa looking such great in uniform. He reminds me of M7 in late 80s until mid 90s when he added some stones!

Ole Sidai wrote:

Ole Sidai,I'm 80% sure the first Merk 4s have been delivered though I don't have numbers. People will always disbelieve  like the Havocs until they practically land on them!!

So where are they? They have done a good job hiding them then. I have yet to see any of these havocs.

@ Olekoima. There is every truth to those air and land toys. Havoc is all about the numbers now. They have been there for a while. The Vodka Emperor couldn't part with the Alligator.
Merk 4 is certainly in incubation especially after successful trials in my former play grounds and the strategic relationship that exist. I think the region is headed into the right direction considering resources and ever developing threat matrix. 
@ Risasi, it is time you got some new suites bro! There is NO arguement to that. I would jump into the next flight to witness "kamwana" in his new uniform flagging you off bro. Btw, never seen a C in C in Africa looking such great in uniform. He reminds me of M7 in late 80s until mid 90s when he added some stones!

Thanks for the info Ole Sidai. I believe you although i haven't seen the havocs. Between akina Risasi seem to be taking eons before taking delivery of new birds. I wonder what is causing all this delay.

Here an interesting read:-

OTT expands Puma M36 range
OTT Technologies has expanded its Puma M36 armoured vehicle range, with its ambulance, munitions disposal and recovery variants being sold to United Nations peacekeeping partner countries.

Hans Kriek, OTT Marketing Manager, told defenceWeb that the new Puma M36 6x6 recovery vehicle is in production for United Nations peacekeeping partner countries. Vehicles have been bought through the US Department of State (DoS) for countries participating in UN missions......

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36691:ott-expands-puma-m36-range&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

Ole Sidai wrote:
 You need new suites bwana plus kamwana and my Chicago sheriff seem to have forgiven each other.

kwani ONK knew that Kamwana would win back in 2011?

mchoraji wrote:

Ole Sidai wrote:
 You need new suites bwana plus kamwana and my Chicago sheriff seem to have forgiven each other.

kwani ONK knew that Kamwana would win back in 2011?

The Hague maneno and its political genesis brewed bad broth between UK and uncle sam but both parties seem to have turned a page. Practically, uncle sam needs UK much closer than the opposite. Kamwana handsome dance with the east and his chest thumping seems to have scared uncle sams ego. Eh eh...in my view, uncle sam had no choice than bring him home both for business and geopolitics.
And am glad you realize the kind of input we lost in Ole Nkarei.

GreyArea wrote:

jasiri wrote:Happy Mashujaa day men and women of the blog. We have been with some of you close to 7 years now and not a word has been said between us in anger, belittling or beratement. You are the Shujaas of this online war council.

Ahsante @jasiri, hope you had a good one.

Do you have any info as to why this vessel has not been escorted out of Kenyan waters by your namesake?

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/thecounties/article/2000138906/alarm-over-foreign-ship-near-beach

that vessel is officially conducting maritime research. the locals are worried about the eco marine environments and tourist effects.

about MBTs a friend of mine informed me that sometimes back China was looking for a playing ground either at KE or a neighboring country to demonstration ability and skills of a new MBT  meant for to potential African Armies . i am not sure if it materialized. may be thats what was spotted along KE roads  i am not sure where or whether it was done or if it ever come to materials