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JAMHURI DAY
Kenya today cerebrates 52yrs of independence & 51yrs of being a republic. Allow me friends to congratulate every single Kenyan on this day.
Let me also congratulate the 15 Kenya Rifles Battalion based at Mariakani Barracks. They were trooping their colour today & that has been a culmination of a very busy year for them as far as ceremonial duties are concerned. I have hereby posted some of the said duties;
Madaraka Day
Mashujaa Day
President Jakaya Kikwete's farewell visit
Pope Francis visit
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf
Jamhuri Day
Let me also congratulate the 15 Kenya Rifles Battalion based at Mariakani Barracks. They were trooping their colour today & that has been a culmination of a very busy year for them as far as ceremonial duties are concerned. I have hereby posted some of the said duties;
Madaraka Day
Mashujaa Day
President Jakaya Kikwete's farewell visit
Pope Francis visit
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf
Jamhuri Day
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mchoraji- Posts : 286
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HAPPY JAMHURI DAY
Kudos to wanahewa for the spectacular show. Tiger squadron hawaku dissapoint. Those are battle capable birds siasa kando. Also spotted the new recon birds kutoka marekani zikiingia mab. Good job @risasi
Kobooz- Posts : 191
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Kobooz wrote:Kudos to wanahewa for the spectacular show. Tiger squadron hawaku dissapoint. Those are battle capable birds siasa kando. Also spotted the new recon birds kutoka marekani zikiingia mab. Good job @risasi
Which ones @Kobooz? F-16s?
Olekoima- Posts : 782
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Some Turbo props equipped with modern stuff to digest signals and smoke out those hidding......hio story ya fighting falcons sio haraka hivyoOlekoima wrote:Kobooz wrote:Kudos to wanahewa for the spectacular show. Tiger squadron hawaku dissapoint. Those are battle capable birds siasa kando. Also spotted the new recon birds kutoka marekani zikiingia mab. Good job @risasi
Which ones @Kobooz? F-16s?
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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Marauder
Why on earth would someone licence this ten-ton monster for civilian use in the city?
mogen- Posts : 658
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JAMHURI DAY
Not falcons, they are cessnas equipped with survailance equipment as you indicatedOle Sidai wrote:Some Turbo props equipped with modern stuff to digest signals and smoke out those hidding......hio story ya fighting falcons sio haraka hivyoOlekoima wrote:Kobooz wrote:Kudos to wanahewa for the spectacular show. Tiger squadron hawaku dissapoint. Those are battle capable birds siasa kando. Also spotted the new recon birds kutoka marekani zikiingia mab. Good job @risasi
Which ones @Kobooz? F-16s?
Kobooz- Posts : 191
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Merry Christmas to y'all TEA members & a Happy New year 2016. A slight question from this part of Kenyana regarding the situation in Burundi; How can a forced landing of AU troops be effected, particularly from Nairobi, in the wake of Pierre's anti-AU sentiments?
Cycoh 'DUDUS'- Posts : 270
Join date : 2011-12-22
Age : 43
Location : Kwale-Kenya
MY,MY,MY,WE'VE COME A LOOONG WAY!
Many of you started out at the Nairobi chron,junk jets page 5 years ago. Do you realise how far we and the KDF have gone in that short half decade?
The KN has added an ex French 200 ft gunboat and the Jasiri;the KA has exponentially increased all its formations with Z9s,Noras,Psions,BRDMs,BUKs,Merk 4s;the KAF has new MI 17s-most importantly,they've all won a war in S Somalia. Nkash predicted just such an operation,in the interests of peace I won't repeat what certain naysayers said on that forum.
We want more, we need more war fighting equipment,but do you know that's an almost unprecedented upscaling of combat equipment? How many armed forces have increased their capacity so fast?
Also Kenyans are learning the realities of our world-FINALLY!! How many of you caught the Obonyo interview on Nation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeKNimfFnN0
At the end the Civil Society idiots were shown up as the professional idlers they were. The Col openly said the West was using invented stories of sugar and charcoal smuggling to smear the KDF. Imo,the Kismayo visit was even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcmP59dzYvk
Nationtv visited the port,talked to the top managers,middle level clerks,loaders, Burundians,Kamboni militia, a KDF platoon sergeant and found the only sugar importers were the same 7 Somali names for over a decade!! The quantities of a 100k tons a year were destined for only S Somalia and parts of the North. IIRC,the smuggling stories started even before the KDF reached Kismayo.
Slowly,we're waking up. Fewer and fewer of us now accept 'Western truths' as gospel. This has allowed us to see the Anglo Zionist intent vis a vis Somalia and the entire continent with clearer eyes.
The KN has added an ex French 200 ft gunboat and the Jasiri;the KA has exponentially increased all its formations with Z9s,Noras,Psions,BRDMs,BUKs,Merk 4s;the KAF has new MI 17s-most importantly,they've all won a war in S Somalia. Nkash predicted just such an operation,in the interests of peace I won't repeat what certain naysayers said on that forum.
We want more, we need more war fighting equipment,but do you know that's an almost unprecedented upscaling of combat equipment? How many armed forces have increased their capacity so fast?
Also Kenyans are learning the realities of our world-FINALLY!! How many of you caught the Obonyo interview on Nation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeKNimfFnN0
At the end the Civil Society idiots were shown up as the professional idlers they were. The Col openly said the West was using invented stories of sugar and charcoal smuggling to smear the KDF. Imo,the Kismayo visit was even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcmP59dzYvk
Nationtv visited the port,talked to the top managers,middle level clerks,loaders, Burundians,Kamboni militia, a KDF platoon sergeant and found the only sugar importers were the same 7 Somali names for over a decade!! The quantities of a 100k tons a year were destined for only S Somalia and parts of the North. IIRC,the smuggling stories started even before the KDF reached Kismayo.
Slowly,we're waking up. Fewer and fewer of us now accept 'Western truths' as gospel. This has allowed us to see the Anglo Zionist intent vis a vis Somalia and the entire continent with clearer eyes.
MWAURA- Posts : 236
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Jasiri on sea trail with its new weaponary
mJESHI mMOJA- Posts : 238
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mJESHI mMOJA wrote:Jasiri on sea trail with its new weaponary
Happy New Year everyone.
Jasiri is a spoilt brat.....sasa ni ulinde inchi vizuri. And thank you for the recent Tusker malt na isimita! It made me miss theatre activities more.
Now, Tigers are maturing into Eagles as opposed to the Falcons. This is out outmaneuvering at its very peak but excellent for Kenyana. @bullet man, Super Tucano A-29 or its equivalent will be worth looking for to cover the low.
Once again and like I said before on this topic, Good Luck with the Eagles. I will be poaching for that special congressional approval. If you guys can't home it before Otoyo signs off, then it will be difficult under a new guy.
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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Ole Sidai wrote:mJESHI mMOJA wrote:Jasiri on sea trail with its new weaponary
Happy New Year everyone.
Jasiri is a spoilt brat.....sasa ni ulinde inchi vizuri. And thank you for the recent Tusker malt na isimita! It made me miss theatre activities more.
Now, Tigers are maturing into Eagles as opposed to the Falcons. This is out outmaneuvering at its very peak but excellent for Kenyana. @bullet man, Super Tucano A-29 or its equivalent will be worth looking for to cover the low.
Once again and like I said before on this topic, Good Luck with the Eagles. I will be poaching for that special congressional approval. If you guys can't home it before Otoyo signs off, then it will be difficult under a new guy.
With the C 208's addition to our inventory, might we have low end covered by this bird, assuming that it were part of this deal? though I don't see what advantage it offers compared to the Super Tucano.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ac-208-combat-caravan/
Mbaine- Posts : 45
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how many squadrons(eagles) are likely to mature? i.e. if all goes well
timoh- Posts : 82
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AzKahia wrote:Ole Sidai wrote:mJESHI mMOJA wrote:Jasiri on sea trail with its new weaponary
Happy New Year everyone.
Jasiri is a spoilt brat.....sasa ni ulinde inchi vizuri. And thank you for the recent Tusker malt na isimita! It made me miss theatre activities more.
Now, Tigers are maturing into Eagles as opposed to the Falcons. This is out outmaneuvering at its very peak but excellent for Kenyana. @bullet man, Super Tucano A-29 or its equivalent will be worth looking for to cover the low.
Once again and like I said before on this topic, Good Luck with the Eagles. I will be poaching for that special congressional approval. If you guys can't home it before Otoyo signs off, then it will be difficult under a new guy.
With the C 208's addition to our inventory, might we have low end covered by this bird, assuming that it were part of this deal? though I don't see what advantage it offers compared to the Super Tucano.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ac-208-combat-caravan/
Tucanos have been with Risasi for many decades. TU-A-29 seems to have the right teeth, eyes and spears to deal with the current situation around our COIN theatre. With Z9, MD 500, and now Mi28, using TU-A-29 for the lows as opposed to Falcons, makes every sense. That saves enough for the proposed 2 dozen plus Eagles. Hey...even mitumba eagles got enough claws to chicken all those SUs around....though no imminent threat as at now.
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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Ole Sidai wrote:AzKahia wrote:Ole Sidai wrote:mJESHI mMOJA wrote:Jasiri on sea trail with its new weaponary
Happy New Year everyone.
Jasiri is a spoilt brat.....sasa ni ulinde inchi vizuri. And thank you for the recent Tusker malt na isimita! It made me miss theatre activities more.
Now, Tigers are maturing into Eagles as opposed to the Falcons. This is out outmaneuvering at its very peak but excellent for Kenyana. @bullet man, Super Tucano A-29 or its equivalent will be worth looking for to cover the low.
Once again and like I said before on this topic, Good Luck with the Eagles. I will be poaching for that special congressional approval. If you guys can't home it before Otoyo signs off, then it will be difficult under a new guy.
With the C 208's addition to our inventory, might we have low end covered by this bird, assuming that it were part of this deal? though I don't see what advantage it offers compared to the Super Tucano.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ac-208-combat-caravan/
Tucanos have been with Risasi for many decades. TU-A-29 seems to have the right teeth, eyes and spears to deal with the current situation around our COIN theatre. With Z9, MD 500, and now Mi28, using TU-A-29 for the lows as opposed to Falcons, makes every sense. That saves enough for the proposed 2 dozen plus Eagles. Hey...even mitumba eagles got enough claws to chicken all those SUs around....though no imminent threat as at now.
Found this article online and thought it an interesting read especially with our current scenario. The author seems to have a rather high opinon of falcons in a knife fight.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/how-to-win-in-a-dogfight-stories-from-a-pilot-who-flew-1682723379
Mbaine- Posts : 45
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EL ADDE
First of all I am heartbroken by this news. Words cannot describe how I felt when I read the news on what was happening down there. Condolences to the families of the soldiers who paid the ultimate price to keep our country safe.
Now to serious matters, does the brass really need to associate and collaborate with "soldiers" who abandon post and flee when attacked by the hyenas? does the KDF really need to provide support to a team of gunslingers calling themselves the SNA, while other militia like the ASWJ are more hardy and fight when faced by such characters? Me thinks it would be better to let the SNA run their own ops and do whatever they think is best for themselves, while the KDF takes the ASWJ and works on them the same way they worked on Jubbaland soldiers and only supports them when things get tough. let me compose my thoughts some more on the same, but point still stands that KDF should consider cutting ties with ASWJ and point at previous ops where SNA run off and left burundians,ugandans fight a difficult battle. Otherwise KDF might have to rethink numbers on the ground where they are paired with SNA as opposed to other militias.
Side query: are there any all-weather day and night rotaries under ACB's possession?
Now to serious matters, does the brass really need to associate and collaborate with "soldiers" who abandon post and flee when attacked by the hyenas? does the KDF really need to provide support to a team of gunslingers calling themselves the SNA, while other militia like the ASWJ are more hardy and fight when faced by such characters? Me thinks it would be better to let the SNA run their own ops and do whatever they think is best for themselves, while the KDF takes the ASWJ and works on them the same way they worked on Jubbaland soldiers and only supports them when things get tough. let me compose my thoughts some more on the same, but point still stands that KDF should consider cutting ties with ASWJ and point at previous ops where SNA run off and left burundians,ugandans fight a difficult battle. Otherwise KDF might have to rethink numbers on the ground where they are paired with SNA as opposed to other militias.
Side query: are there any all-weather day and night rotaries under ACB's possession?
proud kenyan- Posts : 165
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Side query: are there any all-weather day and night rotaries under ACB's possession?
Total SADNESS. RIP our heroes. My heart and feelings are with the affected familes. Be assured that KE will take care of you despite irreplaceable loss of the loved ones.
@Proud Kenyan.....yes and I see those special capabilities being deployed soon at the same level or more as it were during those early stages of Linda Inch. The intent to make peace with these idiots gave them the chance to regroup. There is need to step on gas and more gas relentlessly. They know nothing but death....so give it to them.
Amison should not cut down troops or equipments any more. AM EXTREMLY MAD AT AMISON! KDF capabilities were reduced after joining Amison!
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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what the hell hapenned here?
Hundreds of alshabab with a suicide truck? why no one picked this up on the inteligence circles?where was military inteligence and why such a high death toll?what weapons were on hand to help repel this attack?
am too angry and devastated with this news...some one needs to provide answers.... The president needs to show some spine and demand answers from the top brass.
by now KDF SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ALKEBAB modus operandi is to attack at dawn...and should have had proper response team on cover watch ...fully armed to unleash hell at anything that moves towards their base.
am too angry and devastated with this news...some one needs to provide answers.... The president needs to show some spine and demand answers from the top brass.
by now KDF SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ALKEBAB modus operandi is to attack at dawn...and should have had proper response team on cover watch ...fully armed to unleash hell at anything that moves towards their base.
countersniper- Posts : 527
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countersniper wrote:Hundreds of alshabab with a suicide truck? why no one picked this up on the inteligence circles?where was military inteligence and why such a high death toll?what weapons were on hand to help repel this attack?
am too angry and devastated with this news...some one needs to provide answers.... The president needs to show some spine and demand answers from the top brass.
by now KDF SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ALKEBAB modus operandi is to attack at dawn...and should have had proper response team on cover watch ...fully armed to unleash hell at anything that moves towards their base.
I have been unable to sleep all night long! Can someone give answers to why massive KE assets could not be funded when KDF joined AMISON? Rotary wings, fixed wings and heavy precision long range support assets could not be funded and hence taken off field! These idiots have been given a lot of time to recruit, regroup and re-arm. Damn it......UN and AU should wake up and finance additional resource deployment to create and upper hand momentum necessary to reverse current rise.
Why were those TCV's captured from Burundi not hunted down and eliminated? Once a friendly force asset falls into enemy hands is obviously an enemy asset. Am sad beyond believe.
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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El Adde
I agree, the last day has been disheartening and many questions still linger...i condole with the families of the fallen heroes and my prayers go out to them, and for the warriors still standing, Godspeed as you seek retribution for the honor of your brothers. from what i gathered a good number of the fallen were from Arty after a gun position was breached... its still not clear how this happened, but top brass should seek to have more KDF resources at the front as @Ole Sidai says..we can no longer allow the Ethiopians to have their say over the sector, if indeed this is part of the challenge with Amisom in the sector... AS seem to be learning from ISIL, same tactics used in Iraq, replicated in the Janale attack and now on KDF...
Observer- Posts : 89
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Observer wrote:I agree, the last day has been disheartening and many questions still linger...i condole with the families of the fallen heroes and my prayers go out to them, and for the warriors still standing, Godspeed as you seek retribution for the honor of your brothers. from what i gathered a good number of the fallen were from Arty after a gun position was breached... its still not clear how this happened, but top brass should seek to have more KDF resources at the front as @Ole Sidai says..we can no longer allow the Ethiopians to have their say over the sector, if indeed this is part of the challenge with Amisom in the sector... AS seem to be learning from ISIL, same tactics used in Iraq, replicated in the Janale attack and now on KDF...
Why did AMISON cut down on maritime surveillance? The Gulf of Aden is their main resupply route and yet no effective maritime surveillance. Why??
Before KDF joined AMISON, they were effectively able to hunt down all important kebab assets knocking them out...even sams were hunted off before use. KDF had more sandals and practical application of resources thereby winning every single encounter with ease in the entire sector South. After joining Amisom, why were they not supported "passe" than "slice and ship back home"? This loss is extremely sad and may I admit, personal to me. No tears and prayers are enough from my side. My entire hope is this will be the start to effectively eliminating their combat ability. Ideology will take some time though.
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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AMISOM OPS
I believe AMISOM's financiers wanted a situation whereby there would be no tangible results for the next few years, so that the usual stakeholders sweep into town and take the credit for peace returning to the whole theatre. TheirOle Sidai wrote:Observer wrote:I agree, the last day has been disheartening and many questions still linger...i condole with the families of the fallen heroes and my prayers go out to them, and for the warriors still standing, Godspeed as you seek retribution for the honor of your brothers. from what i gathered a good number of the fallen were from Arty after a gun position was breached... its still not clear how this happened, but top brass should seek to have more KDF resources at the front as @Ole Sidai says..we can no longer allow the Ethiopians to have their say over the sector, if indeed this is part of the challenge with Amisom in the sector... AS seem to be learning from ISIL, same tactics used in Iraq, replicated in the Janale attack and now on KDF...
Why did AMISON cut down on maritime surveillance? The Gulf of Aden is their main resupply route and yet no effective maritime surveillance. Why??
Before KDF joined AMISON, they were effectively able to hunt down all important kebab assets knocking them out...even sams were hunted off before use. KDF had more sandals and practical application of resources thereby winning every single encounter with ease in the entire sector South. After joining Amisom, why were they not supported "passe" than "slice and ship back home"? This loss is extremely sad and may I admit, personal to me. No tears and prayers are enough from my side. My entire hope is this will be the start to effectively eliminating their combat ability. Ideology will take some time though.
The last time the single biggest loss occurred on the battle field was Miido, and the brass changed tac. I see no other way this time around, more ops from 30th and 40th to kill off funding and weapons for shabaab. I might also expect some loud noises, maybe even from troop contributing countries' C in Cs towards funding of air and naval assets of AMISOM.
An extension of pole to you @ Sidai, words will not heal any wounds,maybe soothe. God's hand and time alone will work in your favour.
I wish @ Nkarei was here to give an insight into the attack, hopefully @ Bulletman and @ Jasiri will make a stop here and walk us through the same.
proud kenyan- Posts : 165
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AMISOM BASE ATTACK
The thing is... we have not seen such or any attacks in bases or places under ethiopian control
what is it that they are getting right ?
my hand of friendship to all those who have lost loved ones at this hard time.
Acomplete change of tacticle approach is needed by kdf.
Even if it means acting solely and preventivelly so be it.
There are calls for a change in political leadership at cabinet level.... i dont know if this is justified but the lack of input since this unfortunate event unfolded is too omnious.
i even get more distrssed when stories circulate that the base is completely under terrorists control..and many soldiers are fleeing the area... i hope it is just mere propaganda.
what is it that they are getting right ?
my hand of friendship to all those who have lost loved ones at this hard time.
Acomplete change of tacticle approach is needed by kdf.
Even if it means acting solely and preventivelly so be it.
There are calls for a change in political leadership at cabinet level.... i dont know if this is justified but the lack of input since this unfortunate event unfolded is too omnious.
i even get more distrssed when stories circulate that the base is completely under terrorists control..and many soldiers are fleeing the area... i hope it is just mere propaganda.
countersniper- Posts : 527
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In war you can't always have perfect intel;you can't always have all your assets in place-those risks can be mitigated somewhat by proper planning and tactics. The biggest variable is the quality of your allies which imo is the lesson in this episode.
It seems the militia position wasn't properly secured allowing a civilian suicide car to breach their pos. The KDF rushing to assist is what triggered disaster.
You can have all the air/armour and arty in the world but if you allies are basic.........SIGHHHHH!
It seems the militia position wasn't properly secured allowing a civilian suicide car to breach their pos. The KDF rushing to assist is what triggered disaster.
You can have all the air/armour and arty in the world but if you allies are basic.........SIGHHHHH!
MWAURA- Posts : 236
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Amisom base attack suicide bombers
The Chief of defence forces says the base was attacked by three suicide vehicles ... it seems logical to imagine that someone could/should have seen/observed? these vehicles approach if there was proper security survaillance on the periphery of the area.
i can also imagine the confusion once the attack started ..and no wonder many kdf soldiers chose to take tacticle cover by running away.
kdf should come up with one kilometre safe zone around any military base and enforce this frontier with a shoot to kill operational order regardless at all time.
i can also imagine the confusion once the attack started ..and no wonder many kdf soldiers chose to take tacticle cover by running away.
kdf should come up with one kilometre safe zone around any military base and enforce this frontier with a shoot to kill operational order regardless at all time.
countersniper- Posts : 527
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I would assume that MI is one step ahead keeping tabs on what Radio Andulus has broadcast today and has also posted audio of online. For those who might know, why is this station still able to broadcast and what is the value of it being allowed to do so? At the same time, its one avenue through which one can determine who is being held and used for their propaganda motives which appears to involve wanting to negotiate or at least bluffing about it. I hate to speculate further, so I will stop there.
obienga- Posts : 55
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obienga wrote:I would assume that MI is one step ahead keeping tabs on what Radio Andulus has broadcast today and has also posted audio of online. For those who might know, why is this station still able to broadcast and what is the value of it being allowed to do so? At the same time, its one avenue through which one can determine who is being held and used for their propaganda motives which appears to involve wanting to negotiate or at least bluffing about it. I hate to speculate further, so I will stop there.
This nasty attack changes everything. I expect big muscle and massive but tactical retaliation once whole dust settles down. There is always a % of write off in any war guys but this is an absolute punch. It is up to KDF and not AU or UN to exact revenge. I have no doubt in KDF ability on this.......watch my words.
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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Id like to pass my condolences to my KDF brothers in arms and their families. We as Kenyans are mourning and thank you for you're sacrifice in protecting our freedoms.
From what I'm hearing through the grapevines.... Alshabab rigged captured AU APC's and rigged them with explosives and drove them towards the SNA/KDF camps and detonated..... Alshabab used its Leego tactics against our boys...
KDF should respond and quickly hunt them down and don't falter... We also need an electronics package of drones....
From what I'm hearing through the grapevines.... Alshabab rigged captured AU APC's and rigged them with explosives and drove them towards the SNA/KDF camps and detonated..... Alshabab used its Leego tactics against our boys...
KDF should respond and quickly hunt them down and don't falter... We also need an electronics package of drones....
cylon- Posts : 443
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Kenya's poorly trained and poorly equipped soldiers have no business in Somalia. That a camp can be overrun, over 100 soldiers killed, tens of soldiers abducted and others remain unaccounted for is a national shame. The pot bellied generals and tribal kings in State House do not care about the sitting ducks in Somalia, they are busy looting.
Accept the situation for what it is, send the soldiers back to the borders, send the profit generating refugees from their camps within Kenya back to Somalia and focus on the homeland and not the charcoal trade in Somalia!
Accept the situation for what it is, send the soldiers back to the borders, send the profit generating refugees from their camps within Kenya back to Somalia and focus on the homeland and not the charcoal trade in Somalia!
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mekatilili wrote:Kenya's poorly trained and poorly equipped soldiers have no business in Somalia. That a camp can be overrun, over 100 soldiers killed, tens of soldiers abducted and others remain unaccounted for is a national shame. The pot bellied generals and tribal kings in State House do not care about the sitting ducks in Somalia, they are busy looting.
Accept the situation for what it is, send the soldiers back to the borders, send the profit generating refugees from their camps within Kenya back to Somalia and focus on the homeland and not the charcoal trade in Somalia!
@Mekatilili, I really can't make any sense of whatever you are rumbling about especially at this sad moment. May I remind you that KDF had always operated within its borders until Linda Inchi. You will need more than a month to understand why Linda Inchi was necessary. We either fight them out there and stabilize Somalia or we fight them on our streets and jungles. What you are suggesting is the status quo before Linda Inchi and we know how it was especially from 1991 all the way until 2013. Hega dam, Hulugho, Wajir bor, Liboi, Amuma, Kiunga....name it were all turned out to be their hunting ground! Not unless we have a neighbor who we can work with, it will be difficult to protect our border. This loss is another price for our freedom. RIP MY DEAR BROTHERS. MY HEART AND SOUL IS WITH YOU ALL.
Ole Sidai- Posts : 125
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Surprisingly, you have a lengthy response to a post you claim you could not make sense of.Ole Sidai wrote:mekatilili wrote:Kenya's poorly trained and poorly equipped soldiers have no business in Somalia. That a camp can be overrun, over 100 soldiers killed, tens of soldiers abducted and others remain unaccounted for is a national shame. The pot bellied generals and tribal kings in State House do not care about the sitting ducks in Somalia, they are busy looting.
Accept the situation for what it is, send the soldiers back to the borders, send the profit generating refugees from their camps within Kenya back to Somalia and focus on the homeland and not the charcoal trade in Somalia!
@Mekatilili, I really can't make any sense of whatever you are rumbling about especially at this sad moment. May I remind you that KDF had always operated within its borders until Linda Inchi. You will need more than a month to understand why Linda Inchi was necessary. We either fight them out there and stabilize Somalia or we fight them on our streets and jungles. What you are suggesting is the status quo before Linda Inchi and we know how it was especially from 1991 all the way until 2013. Hega dam, Hulugho, Wajir bor, Liboi, Amuma, Kiunga....name it were all turned out to be their hunting ground! Not unless we have a neighbor who we can work with, it will be difficult to protect our border. This loss is another price for our freedom. RIP MY DEAR BROTHERS. MY HEART AND SOUL IS WITH YOU ALL.
Stabilize? Kenyan security agencies are incapable of securing Kenya, as evidenced by the rising insecurity from domestic and external forces! How in the Zeus' name are you going to stabilize Somalia. America, that great military power, was incapable of stabilizing Somalia! I suppose your inflated opinion of Kenyan military abilities inform your misguided view on your Kenya's abilities in the region. Have you not learnt about the misadventure that is American nation building?
Prior to the commencement of Kenya's military expedition in Somalia, your borders were porous, your border security was non existent and rebels from Sudan, Ethiopia, Uganda and Somalia made bold excursions into your territory at will. Status quo you claim?
My recommendations are as follows.
- Stop meddling in Somali politics.
- Close the refugee camps and relocate them to the secured regions in Somalia. The international community will then be forced to tend to the Somali refugee and insecurity menace WITHIN SOMALIA.
- Improve your intelligence and secure the bloody border. Close it if you have to!
I have outlined these recommendations on this website for years on this website! Your pot bellied generals and corrupt politicians are way over their heads.
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