Kenya Defence Forces (KDF)

ole Nkarei wrote:

"We've seen them on the radar, they operate in small groups. We trace them moving at night. But they've not engaged us. We haven't heard gunfire or mortars," said a Kenyan soldier who gave his name as Bernard.
Asked how long he expected Kenya's military to remain in Somalia, he said: "We have no deadline."

There are definite Military and Polical Time-lines, but not in cement. We move with stealth, least all comes tumbling down. These Zoomaliyans, bana!! Eiiish!

"The military line of operations has its own limits," Brigadier Anthony Ngere, the commander of Kenya's forces in southern Somalia, told Reuters. "The politics needs to move in tandem"

Anything familiar, deja vue, @jas?

As concerns those TZ 'plough' acquisitions from China - (1) War in this age is strictly Military-Military. Large-scale attacks on Civilian Targets will land you in more trouble than you care to imagine. Unless of course they had their back truly against the wall and deployment was defensive - still, a War Tribunal awaits you the minute you finish ploughing Nairobi from Arusha. (2) more importantly, one does not need to procure a panga to deter a panga-wielding fella. I doubt that tracking and taking out those TZ Ploughs would present a more difficult situation than KDF/AF interdicting the Sukhois from Tororo and Entebbe, or the UPDF/AF Tigers and Eef-fifteens-ees from LAB and Wajiir. BTW - what is with all this renewed talk of Chinky J-17, American Fighting Falcons, Froggy Angels, Eh??

The propaganda now being waged by Al-Shabaab sympathisers in the diaspora is an inevitable consequence of the changed Zoomaliya dynamics. Helped considerably by elements of International Civil Society and the various NGOS that have crafted a raison d'etre from the Zoomaliya human catastrophe. They run Dadaab from air-conditioned offices in Nairobi living their privileged lives on the backs of the sea of human sadness in Dadaaab. As Zoomaliya acquires a semblance of stability, reverse-migration will inevitably result as Zoomaliya seek dignified living conditions back in Zoomaliya. This complex status quo that amalgamated both the agents of civil disorder and the agents of humanitarian interventions, is crumbling. People, dont be disheartened by the croaking noises of the frogs - we are almost there!!

We can start analysis of OLN next week?

areba wrote:im almost 99 percent convinced were doing F-15s.

areba wrote:im almost 99 percent convinced were doing F-15s.

cylon wrote:

areba wrote:im almost 99 percent convinced were doing F-15s.

South Africa, Morocco, Egypt couldn't even acquire the birds, Even Nigeria tried and sammy told them no..... Our air-force will be one of the most sophisticated air-force in africa, keeping the Nubian's, Pharaoh's, Boers, and anybody else at bay...

I say our chances are 50% and may be included in nest year's fiscal plan

Don Dikhi wrote:I just joined this forum to make a confirmation to y'all....YES ....the Birds have landed....F-15s...(LAB).....I will leave it @ that....till the officials do their thing...

aggressor one wrote:Meanwhile AMISOM, Ugandan contingent captures Wanlweyne on the road to Baidoa this morning.

countersniper wrote:Can anyone explain the sudden silence and demise of SIN?its like once kismayu fell...it was mission accomplished and SINS services no longer needed.

livefire wrote:Wheather stealth or overt system declarations; the pic in the fray is that of disinformation and with intent of causing uncertainity/confusion withing east african uniforms, note the equal "admissions" accompanied with equal "denial" undertones. A pretty nice defensive/possible offensive tactic by KDF over electronic media, hehe. Anyway, with utmost respect for the chief F'15e lobbiest, Ole nkarei, a warranted officer to boot & whom i grade as one of the few top notch military brains here; i think i will hold my piece. Afterall they have been labled ''classified''.
Welcome onboard ''Don''.

ole Nkarei wrote:The murmurs about these Eagles recall the bible story of Lazarus the poor begger, and his response to the rich man that not even Moses returning from the dead and told the rich man's brothers of ''Sukhois'' and ''Eagles'' (forgive me!!) would they believe him! No comparison intended with Moses to this imperfect human:D

Fact is not one Uniform will openly confirm these birds because there is an express CDF order for everyone to steer clear off these Birds unless one is directly looped by Command Tasking. I think it ought to be clear his justifications, that an inadvertent and official confirmation by ''source'' or ''sighting'' will inevitably trigger a dibilitating '''catch-up" procurement programming encompassing the bredth of Kenyana. And distort all our priorities as everyone frantically flags to stay relevant. There is already some dampened sensibilities in Corps HQ and kDoD about Ops in Sector II, and it must be clear by not to you all that the Coordinated Push towards Jibbil and to Baidoa by AMISOM in Mogadishu/Afgoye in concert with the AMISOM Kismayu assault never took place! Our Defense Budget was approved at just under USD1Billions but has overshort due to OLN past this, while Uganda brothers have capped their Defense spending to 2.1% of GDP and just appoved an enhanced Budget of USD454Millions this financial year. This is in the face of many other pressing social imperatives on Government Spending in both Countries.

Present Military Priorities (for all EAC-expanded) are primarily ''Tactical'' and not ''Strategic'' - (a) deepening our Military Integration of Doctrine and Political Command enough to pull out some few more ''AMISOMS'' in Kenyana (which we all know will be needed) going forth into the future, (b) building Force-Capacity of our individual Ground and Transport Units who invariably would be required for peace enforcement in our region, etc. The Eagles are far from being a Tactical too by whatever imagination, but they have been in the Pipeline from during when EAC was speaking from all sides of their mouths!!

You all know that Sammy recently has dramatically altered his International Strategic Defense Doctrine to engender perceptible ''withdrawals'' from outposts distant from his shores, without weakening his defensive shield one bit - growing and empowering local defense protocols and process that Sammy hopes to control and influence through Provision of Equipment, Training and Military Linkages. Considerations therefore that obviated the supply of Sammy's first-line offensive weapons (all manner of them)in the Seventies and Eighties no longer hold water. Now consider the incredible possibilities of the entire Eastern/Indian Ocean African Seaboard as one seemless deep-water ''sea-port'' and then juxtaposition this to the Sammy's interests in Arabian, Persian, Asia and Africa itself!!


Even from the sketchy Media Clips, it must be clear that the East African Armies in AMISOM are veritable ''Space-age Cyborgs'' in comparison with the stereotyped Militaries you are use innured to! Eh??

@Don Dikhi - karibu bro. Lakini enda stealth kidogo ha yaya mambo, joo!!

firewall wrote:Have a question.

Any word of our fallen brothers who were unceremoniously dragged by AS in the streets of chai town? Everyone will agree we will all get closure when they are properly laid to rest.

firewall wrote:

1. Any word of our fallen brothers who were unceremoniously dragged by AS in the streets of chai town? Everyone will agree we will all get closure when they are properly laid to rest.

2. I see some our troops wielding American rifles - which version of rifle is this? M4A1? Is this being considered the general replacement of the G3?

ole Nkarei wrote:You can pick the two Units out easily even in Media footage from their Hardware and BDU too.

areba wrote:

ole Nkarei wrote:You can pick the two Units out easily even in Media footage from their Hardware and BDU too.

true.. im leaning fast ;-)

Uzi wrote:

livefire wrote:Wheather stealth or overt system declarations; the pic in the fray is that of disinformation and with intent of causing uncertainity/confusion withing east african uniforms, note the equal "admissions" accompanied with equal "denial" undertones. A pretty nice defensive/possible offensive tactic by KDF over electronic media, hehe. Anyway, with utmost respect for the chief F'15e lobbiest, Ole nkarei, a warranted officer to boot & whom i grade as one of the few top notch military brains here; i think i will hold my piece. Afterall they have been labled ''classified''.
Welcome onboard ''Don''.

KDF seems to borrow from the Israeli government's policy of deliberate ambiguity (on Nuclear weapons). I was watching a documentary where upon being asked to clarify, Shimon Peres quips "If the suspicion prevents them from attacking us, why clarify? If by suspicion u can defend ur land its ok, its enough." Why tell ur enemy that u dont have the weapon he is afraid u have.

This is a quotable quote. "If the suspicion prevents them from attacking us, why clarify?"
ehe ehe ehe 'ati, why tell your enemy that you don't have the weapon he is afraid you have'

One another note your 'call sign' reminds me of an incident that happened about 25metres from where I once lived in the 1990s [on one of the South Pacific Islands]. An MP purchased an Uzi Submachine gun and handed it over to his village militia. That immediately made them the strongest and most feared village militia in the area. Promptly reported it as stolen and got another one. He hired an experienced gunner to train the villagers on how to use the Uzi but before the trainer arrived the village sharp shooter tried to check it out. The thing tossed him up into the air and he was truly frightened days later when I met him

Don Dikhi wrote:Am surprised no one has mentioned the special ops little vehicle on Citizen tv. news video...I conclude thats 30th....looks like Johny's SAS..LSV more than Sammy's Seal's DPV...any takers?