Kenya Defence Forces (KDF)

Ole Sidai wrote:@Mwaura...and who ever that dude was. The fact is that there was real push to dump those mitumbas to the south as the chosen clan prey on 35s. Remember their investments in project 35 is such strong. Then Danish rumor too was whispered. But no real grain of quotable thread is out there. It is a chess game but latest is that KE eyes are "possibly" on factory to user 16s....capable of 2 decades (plus) of service like the tigers.

And now sammy himself heads to kenya in a few,will a deal be confirmed for the same around that time,as is the trend in most countries these days(museveni and the vodka drinkers,kikwete and the snail eaters,etc),but albiet at a lower decibel as the military is well known to operate at?

The dark cloud that hung above Garissa today had a silver lining. The Reece boys even after a long journey from NBO entered the theatre and in less than 15mins the place was sanitized. Kudos to them

I saw this Karanja article and thought of sharing. Sounds interesting, but is there any grain of truth in it?
Read on:-

Friday, 25 July 2014

KDF PREPARES FOR THE MERKAVA 4-Update!!

Right from independence Kenya was always a buyer of Brit goods and services. Thanks to their Nairobi based rentiers major infrastructure projects were reserved for London based firms while the military bought their weapons systems. So complete was their hold they often supplied without tendering! A situation that persisted til the Kibaki administration took over in January 2003.

In the 80s the Brits delivered 76 Vickers 3 to the 2 armour battalions,the 78th and 81st. For its day and the threat environment it  was a good tank. Its 105 mm could handle any T-55/59/62/64 or even 72. The Nigerians also bought a similar amount.





In fact an upgraded version was developed some say specifically for the Kenya Army. There could be truth since,a version of the KAF ground support jet,the BAE Hawk 52 was a specific Kenyan iteration. Anyway only one Vickers 7 was produced. It had frontal Chobham armour and the turret design was seen on the Challenger. The gun was larger than the previous Vickers 3 being a 120 mm.


It came out at the late 80s and by the time the army was ready to upgrade in the early 90s,the country was under a low level arms embargo due to human rights violations and money was also an issue. Kenyans will remember the so-called tribal clashes of the early 90s that ushered in multipartyism. Hundreds of thousands were displaced from the fertile Rift Valley bread basket as then President Moi's Kalenjin attacked 'immigrants'.

Anyway,the original KDF Vickers 3 underwent a midlife upgrade 3 years ago. The Brits installed laser range finders and upgraded the thermal imaging equipment. However unknown to most people the armed forces are amidst an unprecedented rearmament. The aircav has received Z-9s,MI-28s and even the latest Russian double rotor gunship the KA -50 was tested out recently as a purchase probe that didn't go further.

                          A Chinese made Z-9


                Uncle Ivan's answer to the Apache,the MI-28



                      The double rotor,KA 50


 The navy finally received its Spanish OPV 2 years ago while a larger Indian Saryu class OPV currently under construction at a Goa shipyard is expected before the year end.






These are unmistakable indicators that the KDF is seeking an expanded regional role. A nation without the means to project power is forever doomed to insignificance:which brings us to Kenya pulling the wider east Africa along with the Middle Region out of the Western grip via the crucial LAPSSET.
In other words,Somalia as far as Bossasso on the Red Sea to N.Mozambique to S.Ethiopia,S Sudan as far as the northern border til the CAR and all parts in between  are inextricable linked to our national trajectory and therefore fall under the KDF defence orbit.
 Which means that while air assets may be sufficient for this task an armour element is still required-something heavier, more effective than the Ukrainian T-72s of the unforgettable MV Faina story of 2010 which were meant as a short term stopgap. Britain as a potential supplier of Vickers 7 is out-the decision was made the beginning of the Kibaki era no more arms purchases would be made from that direction.
The price and political noise of other otherwise excellent  examples like German Leopard 2s or French le Clercs discounted European armour. Enter the Merkava 4. 2 were field tested at the N Kenyan army grounds. The brass were seriously pleased. It does all an MBT of its class is expected and more.





It has an internal 60 mm mortar and can carry a half section of infantrymen in its spacious rear.






 Also it contains a revolutionary active defense system,trophy that shoots down incoming missiles and RPGs.
There's an actual combat shootdown of an incoming RPG at this link.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-an-active-protection-system-destroy-an-rpg-fired-1609196170


During the last Lebanon incursion in 2006, Kornet missiles penetrated a handful but no Merkava 4 was destroyed unlike the earlier Merkava 3 and 2 series.K



The Israelis are eager to find a foreign buyer for what's really a top of the line tank and seem to have found one in the KDF and mutually beneficial purchase agreements can be inked for this 6 mn $ beast. If only these fake Jews could reduce their murderous rampages against the Palestinians perhaps conscientious Kenyans wouldn't feel moral reservations at this imminent purchase.
In the real world though such feelings count for little,moral outrage carries its own weight.




Kenyans,Christian and Muslim would be loathe to see their hard earned tax shillings indirectly funding these favourite Israeli pasttimes.
Especially when one remembers all the false flags they've inflicted on us. The first was the Jewish owned Norfolk hotel bombing New Years eve 1980. By the usual Zionist standards casualties were small,roughly 10 killed and 3 times that number injured-maybe we should thank the Mossad? It turned out a mysterious Arab checked out the day before who later turned out to be affiliated with one of the myriad PLO splinter groups.
Everyone knows these Arab factions,splinters and the PLO itself are Israeli puppets. Then there was the Mombasa hotel bomb in 2002 that killed 12 underpaid ,sexually harassed and permanently humiliated Kenyan hotel dancers and the fake attempted Arkia charter jet shootdown.
We can't forget last year's slaughter at Frank Lowy's Westgate that killed almost 70 and damaged our economy to the tune of nearly 1.5 bn $,very serious money in these parts. At this rate we should probably get those Merks for free!!

http://karanjazplace.blogspot.com/2014/07/kdf-prepares-for-merkava-4.html

proud kenyan wrote:

Ole Sidai wrote:@Mwaura...and who ever that dude was. The fact is that there was real push to dump those mitumbas to the south as the chosen clan prey on 35s. Remember their investments in project 35 is such strong. Then Danish rumor too was whispered. But no real grain of quotable thread is out there. It is a chess game but latest is that KE eyes are "possibly" on factory to user 16s....capable of 2 decades (plus) of service like the tigers.

And now sammy himself heads to kenya in a few,will a deal be confirmed for the same around that time,as is the trend in most countries these days(museveni and the vodka drinkers,kikwete and the snail eaters,etc),but albiet at a lower decibel as the military is well known to operate at?

I can bet he will try to market the F-16.

Olekoima wrote:

proud kenyan wrote:

Ole Sidai wrote:@Mwaura...and who ever that dude was. The fact is that there was real push to dump those mitumbas to the south as the chosen clan prey on 35s. Remember their investments in project 35 is such strong. Then Danish rumor too was whispered. But no real grain of quotable thread is out there. It is a chess game but latest is that KE eyes are "possibly" on factory to user 16s....capable of 2 decades (plus) of service like the tigers.

And now sammy himself heads to kenya in a few,will a deal be confirmed for the same around that time,as is the trend in most countries these days(museveni and the vodka drinkers,kikwete and the snail eaters,etc),but albiet at a lower decibel as the military is well known to operate at?

I can bet he will try to market the F-16.

Don't forget the COGNAC guys have held meetings with our fly boys in the recent months. My 2 cents is that Ke will have a deal publicised on/be4 the visit. Also this GSA maneno added spices into the stew.

@olekoima , a mid size vessel 75m should be Jasiri's sister in crime   not the 105m Saryu Class. Mutea Iringo was at Doshi shipyard last week. most likely it will be flagged after Man UKs daddy.

Sierra Kilo wrote:The dark cloud that hung above Garissa today had a silver lining. The Reece boys even after a long journey from NBO entered the theatre and in less than 15mins the place was sanitized. Kudos to them

my commendation goes to KDF Garissa camp,their response led to.reduction of the death toll from 800+ to 147...although many,still drastically reduced.
Now,does anyone still dispute that in the short term the NIS should have powers to do the necessary to avert the same happening? The last time I stated tge same no definitive answer came about. Sometimes effectiveness is needed,does anyone dispute the need to have the commandant G.S.U as a substantive force commander in addition to the regular and adminstratiom police services? More than six hours is long enough to deploy,especiially facing an enemy who doesnt take hostages..? Methinks the police service is still in the rut that doesnt guarantee security hence orders to deploy and even orders to guard  arent taken seriously...case in study: the kirinyagga massacre of local vigilantes by mungiki sometime back By the mungiki...
accordingly,the mungiki were eliminated by cooperation btwn the government and the locals (i.e the kikuyus),the locals who harbour al shabaab should face the same rules

I really don't want to speculate on Garissa. I've already given my opinion on who I think is REALLY responsible for the Westgate and other attacks. My opinion hasn't changed but strengthened. Guys,I seriously think those are our real enemies!

Olekoima wrote:I saw this Karanja article and thought of sharing. Sounds interesting, but is there any grain of truth in it?
Read on:-

Friday, 25 July 2014

KDF PREPARES FOR THE MERKAVA 4-Update!!

Right from independence Kenya was always a buyer of Brit goods and services. Thanks to their Nairobi based rentiers major infrastructure projects were reserved for London based firms while the military bought their weapons systems. So complete was their hold they often supplied without tendering! A situation that persisted til the Kibaki administration took over in January 2003.

In the 80s the Brits delivered 76 Vickers 3 to the 2 armour battalions,the 78th and 81st. For its day and the threat environment it  was a good tank. Its 105 mm could handle any T-55/59/62/64 or even 72. The Nigerians also bought a similar amount.

[img=(320px,200px)]http://www.military-today.com/tanks/vickers_mk3.jpg[/img]

In fact an upgraded version was developed some say specifically for the Kenya Army. There could be truth since,a version of the KAF ground support jet,the BAE Hawk 52 was a specific Kenyan iteration. Anyway only one Vickers 7 was produced. It had frontal Chobham armour and the turret design was seen on the Challenger. The gun was larger than the previous Vickers 3 being a 120 mm.

[img=(320px,199px)]http://www.military-today.com/tanks/vickers_mk7.jpg[/img]

It came out at the late 80s and by the time the army was ready to upgrade in the early 90s,the country was under a low level arms embargo due to human rights violations and money was also an issue. Kenyans will remember the so-called tribal clashes of the early 90s that ushered in multipartyism. Hundreds of thousands were displaced from the fertile Rift Valley bread basket as then President Moi's Kalenjin attacked 'immigrants'.

Anyway,the original KDF Vickers 3 underwent a midlife upgrade 3 years ago. The Brits installed laser range finders and upgraded the thermal imaging equipment. However unknown to most people the armed forces are amidst an unprecedented rearmament. The aircav has received Z-9s,MI-28s and even the latest Russian double rotor gunship the KA -50 was tested out recently as a purchase probe that didn't go further.

                          A Chinese made Z-9

                Uncle Ivan's answer to the Apache,the MI-28

                      The double rotor,KA 50

 The navy finally received its Spanish OPV 2 years ago while a larger Indian Saryu class OPV currently under construction at a Goa shipyard is expected before the year end.

[img=(320px,214px)]http://static.progressivemediagroup.com/uploads/imagelibrary/fhuy.jpeg[/img]

These are unmistakable indicators that the KDF is seeking an expanded regional role. A nation without the means to project power is forever doomed to insignificance:which brings us to Kenya pulling the wider east Africa along with the Middle Region out of the Western grip via the crucial LAPSSET.
In other words,Somalia as far as Bossasso on the Red Sea to N.Mozambique to S.Ethiopia,S Sudan as far as the northern border til the CAR and all parts in between  are inextricable linked to our national trajectory and therefore fall under the KDF defence orbit.
 Which means that while air assets may be sufficient for this task an armour element is still required-something heavier, more effective than the Ukrainian T-72s of the unforgettable MV Faina story of 2010 which were meant as a short term stopgap. Britain as a potential supplier of Vickers 7 is out-the decision was made the beginning of the Kibaki era no more arms purchases would be made from that direction.
The price and political noise of other otherwise excellent  examples like German Leopard 2s or French le Clercs discounted European armour. Enter the Merkava 4. 2 were field tested at the N Kenyan army grounds. The brass were seriously pleased. It does all an MBT of its class is expected and more.

It has an internal 60 mm mortar and can carry a half section of infantrymen in its spacious rear.






 Also it contains a revolutionary active defense system,trophy that shoots down incoming missiles and RPGs.
There's an actual combat shootdown of an incoming RPG at this link.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-an-active-protection-system-destroy-an-rpg-fired-1609196170


During the last Lebanon incursion in 2006, Kornet missiles penetrated a handful but no Merkava 4 was destroyed unlike the earlier Merkava 3 and 2 series.K

The Israelis are eager to find a foreign buyer for what's really a top of the line tank and seem to have found one in the KDF and mutually beneficial purchase agreements can be inked for this 6 mn $ beast. If only these fake Jews could reduce their murderous rampages against the Palestinians perhaps conscientious Kenyans wouldn't feel moral reservations at this imminent purchase.
In the real world though such feelings count for little,moral outrage carries its own weight.

Kenyans,Christian and Muslim would be loathe to see their hard earned tax shillings indirectly funding these favourite Israeli pasttimes.
Especially when one remembers all the false flags they've inflicted on us. The first was the Jewish owned Norfolk hotel bombing New Years eve 1980. By the usual Zionist standards casualties were small,roughly 10 killed and 3 times that number injured-maybe we should thank the Mossad? It turned out a mysterious Arab checked out the day before who later turned out to be affiliated with one of the myriad PLO splinter groups.
Everyone knows these Arab factions,splinters and the PLO itself are Israeli puppets. Then there was the Mombasa hotel bomb in 2002 that killed 12 underpaid ,sexually harassed and permanently humiliated Kenyan hotel dancers and the fake attempted Arkia charter jet shootdown.
We can't forget last year's slaughter at Frank Lowy's Westgate that killed almost 70 and damaged our economy to the tune of nearly 1.5 bn $,very serious money in these parts. At this rate we should probably get those Merks for free!!

http://karanjazplace.blogspot.com/2014/07/kdf-prepares-for-merkava-4.html

I first saw it last year and IMO there's much truth in that blog. Check the latest! Very interesting!

MWAURA wrote:

Olekoima wrote:I saw this Karanja article and thought of sharing. Sounds interesting, but is there any grain of truth in it?
Read on:-

Friday, 25 July 2014

I first saw it last year and IMO there's much truth in that blog. Check the latest! Very interesting!

Interesting read. The posts are by a fellow called MWAURA Karanja....and, no. I am not saying anything. 

The Blue wrote:

MWAURA wrote:

Olekoima wrote:I saw this Karanja article and thought of sharing. Sounds interesting, but is there any grain of truth in it?
Read on:-

Friday, 25 July 2014

I first saw it last year and IMO there's much truth in that blog. Check the latest! Very interesting!

Interesting read. The posts are by a fellow called MWAURA Karanja....and, no. I am not saying anything. 

Save Mwaura some slack. It's his blog. The stuff he writes in there, on radar. Got to do a fly-past someday.

The Blue wrote:

MWAURA wrote:

Olekoima wrote:I saw this Karanja article and thought of sharing. Sounds interesting, but is there any grain of truth in it?
Read on:-

Friday, 25 July 2014

I first saw it last year and IMO there's much truth in that blog. Check the latest! Very interesting!

Interesting read. The posts are by a fellow called MWAURA Karanja....and, no. I am not saying anything. 

HAHAHA! Out of 5 Kyukes anywhere at least 2 are Mwauras! Cycoh/Vitruvian/Risasi and Areba tell us your opinion on Garissa? Specifically who was BEHIND the trigger pullers and why?

Terrorism in most African regions is at the inception stage - way too below the global terrorism standards in terms of capacitation, rapidity in combat, Communication, Command & Control. People, powerful persons, are trying their best to fuel terrorism all over. In the wake of terrorism trying to become a full-blown profession, it's the governments, humanity ecetra who ought to raise up to the challenge. Many states in the developed world have scaled up the ladder to take the responsibility of defending humanity.

In Kenya & Africa at large it's a whole different scenerio, & particularly in the for
er. Security Agencies in Kenya are willing & have the potential, the capacity & skill to fight terrorists. But the leadership, the political class, since independence, has been a failure. The Security machinery can never yield positive results if the government of the day is a mess.

There are some things more, about the leadership, the society & the whole Kenyan populance at large, than meets the eye. Thanks to our patriotism. It has sustained us to this far. But will it sustain us forever? In such a convoluted society? Gratifications are in order in the spirit of compatriotism - if but and only the Kenyan strata of the so-called leaders are not coherently thievish dunderheads, then the axis of "Navumilia" would have become past tense in this age & time. Actually, my crystal ball tells me the Kenya@50 fete was aptly a misconception, the truth be told. Because the pre-colonial Kenya would beat the Kenya@50 hands down flat & square, if the GDP is the universal meter to measure wealth. Where are we headed people? I stated elsewhere that Yemen is hanging on a pendulum. People from the Middle East are flocking in. Some of 'em are terrorist sympathisers.

Terrorism is going a notch higher in this region.

Nairobi (AFP) - Kenyan youths have begun construction of a security barrier along the vast and porous border neighbouring war-torn Somalia, although critics have dismissed the project as infeasible, reports said Thursday........

http://news.yahoo.com/kenya-begins-construction-somalia-security-barrier-111552026.html

NAIROBI, April 17 (Reuters) - Kenya's president announced the appointment of a new defence forces chief on Friday after the retirement of General Julius Karangi, who drew public criticism for the army's handling of a militant attack on a Nairobi shopping mall in 2013.
Somali Islamist al Shabaab gunmen launched an assault on the Westgate mall in September 2013. The siege last four days and soldiers were accused of looting shops during that period.
Critics said the army should have ended the siege more quickly and blamed poor discipline for the looting. Karangi admitted after the attack that there had been some looting and said at least two soldiers were dismissed..........

http://www.trust.org/item/20150417175147-rghx0/

Olekoima wrote:Nairobi (AFP) - Kenyan youths have begun construction of a security barrier along the vast and porous border neighbouring war-torn Somalia, although critics have dismissed the project as infeasible, reports said Thursday........

http://news.yahoo.com/kenya-begins-construction-somalia-security-barrier-111552026.html

A good piece regarding the border wall.

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/In-defence-of-smuggling-and-Africas-porous-borders/-/440808/2687084/-/8h5llrz/-/index.html

coming soon to an airspace above you...the thunder of afterburning Klimov RD 33's. Keep your eyes an ears open...

jasiri wrote:coming soon to an airspace above you...the thunder of afterburning Klimov RD 33's. Keep your eyes an ears open...

Looking forward to it! But eyes and ears rather tired cause since 2012 been wanting for  the smaller thunder of the Klimov TV3-117VMA-SB3 ... but 

jasiri wrote:coming soon to an airspace above you...the thunder of afterburning Klimov RD 33's. Keep your eyes an ears open...

mig 29s?, j-10s?

jasiri wrote:coming soon to an airspace above you...the thunder of afterburning Klimov RD 33's. Keep your eyes an ears open...

jasiri wrote:coming soon to an airspace above you...the thunder of afterburning Klimov RD 33's. Keep your eyes an ears open...

Jas; Hope the sky you talk about is the one above North of Kainuk either South or Main.Not unless The Glenlivet in me is corrupting my understanding, your spice points to a much lesser eagle than what Kisanya man.... Rwitabagomi got. Though no race in that region, m29 is a baby. Look: all vibes, visits, training, political will and budgetary point towards fighting falcons or Francois stuff. My bet still there will be a big announcement before "O-tough" visits his grand ma.
Btw, Egypt has been courting m35 which also uses klimov rd 33. 24 of them were talked of a year ago. FYI, Algeria got Rafale and m29.

jasiri wrote:coming soon to an airspace above you...the thunder of afterburning Klimov RD 33's. Keep your eyes an ears open...

Hey Jas, what exactly are we expecting? Don't talk in parables bwana.Lol!

another rumor strikes again !!!

Flying Crane wrote:another rumor strikes again !!!

Hey man, so long. Where have you been? Like you, I' am also hesitant to believe anything anymore. Where are the F-15s that we were so  certain would be flying here by now?

Olekoima wrote:

Flying Crane wrote:another rumor strikes again !!!

Hey man, so long. Where have you been? Like you, I' am also hesitant to believe anything anymore. Where are the F-15s that we were so  certain would be flying here by now?

 thats Kenya Man, the Land of many dreams

Olekoima wrote:

Flying Crane wrote:another rumor strikes again !!!

Hey man, so long. Where have you been? Like you, I' am also hesitant to believe anything anymore. Where are the F-15s that we were so  certain would be flying here by now?

My own info has it they're here! 3 different sources.So are the MI 28s AND Merk 4s. You'll never see a pic though!

MWAURA wrote:

Olekoima wrote:

Flying Crane wrote:another rumor strikes again !!!

Hey man, so long. Where have you been? Like you, I' am also hesitant to believe anything anymore. Where are the F-15s that we were so  certain would be flying here by now?

My own info has it they're here! 3 different sources.So are the MI 28s AND Merk 4s. You'll never see a pic though!

Well, may be.But what are the types? MiG-29, F-15? or what?

Olekoima wrote:

MWAURA wrote:

Olekoima wrote:

Flying Crane wrote:another rumor strikes again !!!

Hey man, so long. Where have you been? Like you, I' am also hesitant to believe anything anymore. Where are the F-15s that we were so  certain would be flying here by now?

My own info has it they're here! 3 different sources.So are the MI 28s AND Merk 4s. You'll never see a pic though!

Well, may be.But what are the types? MiG-29, F-15? or what?

The F-15EEs.Sorry,nothing solid on numbers. IDK if they're the full complement of 35 expected either.

MWAURA wrote:

Olekoima wrote:

MWAURA wrote:

Olekoima wrote:

Flying Crane wrote:another rumor strikes again !!!

Hey man, so long. Where have you been? Like you, I' am also hesitant to believe anything anymore. Where are the F-15s that we were so  certain would be flying here by now?

My own info has it they're here! 3 different sources.So are the MI 28s AND Merk 4s. You'll never see a pic though!

Well, may be.But what are the types? MiG-29, F-15? or what?

The F-15EEs.Sorry,nothing solid on numbers. IDK if they're the full complement of 35 expected either.

MI-28 yes. the choppers we can agree are here. question is if the 16 are home or just about 5. On the fighter jets........won't believe till I see them with talk of Migs etc. But with the purchase of the Grob trainers recently, that should be a pointer that there are moves to buy new fighter jets.....most probably from the west.

@Mchoraji,
You confirm you have seen the Mi-28s? I would love to set my eyes on them too.

Olekoima wrote:@Mchoraji,
You confirm you have seen the Mi-28s? I would love to set my eyes on them too.

This is the Mil official website & they list Kenya as one of the three operators. 

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=156

The others being Russia & Iraq. Of course we have seen photos of the Russian & Iraqi ones. I haven't seen the Kenyan but a friend who works at 50th Air Calvary confirmed ziko though not at their Embakasi base.