Kenya Defence Forces (KDF)

[quote="ole Nkarei"]

Efrommers wrote:
Wny you ask about the 30th and the 40th?

Ooh! bro decode the above you mean para?

[quote="Efrommers"]

ole Nkarei wrote:

Efrommers wrote:
Wny you ask about the 30th and the 40th?

Ooh! bro decode the above you mean para?

KDF-SOCOM. Meanest dog in Kenyana!!

rwigi wrote:

Further, I am more than happy to entertain any space/satellites related querries.

@Kepler; how feasible is it to have a satellite(s) as part of our security apparatus? Costs?

Not sure if you are also a specialist in drone technology, but what are your thoughts about having drones 'police' the red alert zones?

@Rwigi I had posted a reply to a question about the San Marco Earth Station and relevancy to KDF. I am going to re-post the same here because it addresses your question and then some...

[quote="ole Nkarei"]

Efrommers wrote:

ole Nkarei wrote:

Efrommers wrote:
Wny you ask about the 30th and the 40th?

Ooh! bro decode the above you mean para?

KDF-SOCOM. Meanest dog in Kenyana!!

@ON... from now on I think this is the way forward. Mean machine!! I would suggest basic and simplistic version of such deployments to assist the internal security docket battle terrorism and counter insurgency.

@Kepler Euler, Welcome Bro,
And your contribution here is very informative and juicy. Indeed Satellite Command Centers are the missing link to effectively counter enemy movement (i.e transport of weapons and supportive logistics). Concerning San macro as a layman I won't try to tackle the question when, where, and how but I have two questions.

A) These UAS acquisitions by KAF from abroad do they still have a capacity to be effective? AS is reported to be in possession of their own version of Anti-Aircraft Surveillance systems(not sure about type).

B) How willing are the proprietors of ESA-SCO able to work out some intelligence with other operations forces in the region especially KDF's version of SOCOM?

mogen wrote:[
@Analyst
Can't open Intelligence Briefs website. Browers reporting existence of 'Malware' in the site. Has someone sneaked in malicious code or there is a programming problem?

A.S. appear to be slowly metamorphosing into robber/bandit gangs. May present the new problem to be dealt with. They are losing badly.
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http://www.muujis.com/2012/06/30/mustaqbal-money-transfer-branch-robbed-in-mogadishu/[/quote[/url]]

It is back in operation now.

[quote="Olekoima"][quote="mogen"]

yst
Can't open Intelligence Briefs website. Browers reporting existence of 'Malware' in the site. Has someone sneaked in malicious code or there is a programming problem?

(The malware was put on the early hours of the morning of 1st July, the same day Garissa was hit. The website had indeed provided early warnings about churches as targets of terror attacks, besides locking in Garissa as a possible target of such an attack= Coincidence?..i doubt)

A.S. appear to be slowly metamorphosing into robber/bandit gangs. May present the new problem to be dealt with. They are losing badly. (

Small units of bandits and assassins who have been tasked to spread terror and mayhem. Bank robbers to bring back their economy to its feet after the loss of their core trading and supplies routes

)

It is back in operation now.

I have been having problems putting my posts via a mobile device, I can login but I can't write or post anything. I don't know if it's the browser am using or it's something else could anyone tell me where the problem is.


Now allow me to jump in and give a few pointers regarding improving our national security.

Having unmanned aerial systems is a good way to go considering the vast area involved and other limitation of our police forces. But we should also consider that such systems are affected by other variables and factors, such as what are the targets (Most AS & their sympathizers will look like locals doing their business, unless we r on hot pursuit or have reliably identified some either through human intel or other means and we put a never blinking surveillance on them to have a pattern of life profiles) also such as capacity to effectively utilize such info, weather factors, technical expertise to make the project sustainable and also costs factors. so what am saying is that Yes we can have those systems but are they sufficiently effective within our budget costs???? Having fancy gadgets and equipment is a good thing but the approach to current security threats matrix need to be revised. visible presence doesn't necessarily guarantee security, other factors also have to came to play.

I want to agree with what Analyst had said previously regarding our police force; This idea of reactive policing practice should just end. Let me give a very simple example we all should have witnessed atleast once, noticed how the officers in cash transit duties take their work (Lets for a minutes just ignore the theft cases involving some of them ) whenever they are taking money in or out of banks how alert are they???

Now regarding the Garissa Church attach. the police officers were either caught napping or they freaked out and froze for some seconds. If am to strictly use media reports regarding the incident, I actually fail to understand why none of the officers reacted and atleast fired a shot and if they were briefed accordingly.... how was the briefing done. were they given any intel on threat levels....???

From media reports: The attackers came to the compound in a vehicle (a Car "sic....Open gate"), The attackers had put on balaclavas, The officers were shot in the head........One of the officers was recently transferred from Diplomatic police....... I can go on & on but the above statements speaks volumes??? were they really briefed accordingly before they went to guard duty??? how was the briefing???

also from this reports one can make outline of the the attackers...the attack lasted not more than three minutes. they shot the officers on the head meaning it was either close range or they were really good shooters and know how to handle the guns very well.
They had surveyed the area for more than one Sunday meaning they could be easily identified (The need for them to wear the hoods) so there is still evidence out there that could easily lead to the main suspects.

I wanted to post this on Monday but since i was on the Road & for some reason could manage to use my mobile.

[quote="Analyst"][quote="Olekoima"]

mogen wrote:

yst
Can't open Intelligence Briefs website. Browers reporting existence of 'Malware' in the site. Has someone sneaked in malicious code or there is a programming problem?

(The malware was put on the early hours of the morning of 1st July, the same day Garissa was hit. The website had indeed provided early warnings about churches as targets of terror attacks, besides locking in Garissa as a possible target of such an attack= Coincidence?..i doubt)

A.S. appear to be slowly metamorphosing into robber/bandit gangs. May present the new problem to be dealt with. They are losing badly. (

Small units of bandits and assassins who have been tasked to spread terror and mayhem. Bank robbers to bring back their economy to its feet after the loss of their core trading and supplies routes

)

It is back in operation now.

I suspected that such a thing might happen some time back when I was asking about out Cyber War/ Defense capacity?????

SIN was out of my radar then.

The moment Standard Newspaper started quoting the site. I expected it either to be knocked down or pulled off.
The
site embarrassed NSIS some time back and with standard giving it
prominence it was bound to happen either from other spooks from other
countries in the region to get some raw intel on the site.......Just
speculation here from part here.

These terrorists are not relenting in their efforts to bomb us anytime,anyhow.

The Al-Qaeda affiliate has issued terror warning through their sympathizer resources. East African Countries must be prepared for these threats. Every country that has sent its army to Somalia is a target of these terrorist plot. There is a huge possibility of game change in the terrorists plans with a different country such as Burundi, Ethiopia, or Djibouti suffering a major terrorist attack. The threats could be launched anytime since we have not clarified the time frames they intend to use in these attacks. Strategic Intelligence accessed messages of threats to national security. Al-Shabaab has informed that it will launch two attacks • Operation Al-fath • Operation Khalid Ibn Walid

@Kepler

Some deep stuff right there. I appreciate. Some of it was Greek but suffice it to say I have the idea.

What stood out was this;

This
aerial sensor web can be augmented with additional ground based long
range sensors that traverse the electromagnetic spectrum from radio,
microwave, infrared, and visible bands; motion sensors etc. If this
technology is effectively employed, significant improvement in border
policing will be achieved. The intruders will be compelled to digging
tunnels like along the US-Mexico border which is a highly unlikely
scenario due to a range of factors.

Would that be done by the police or the military? Or would be a situation whereby the military collects the intel and then passes it down to the police. I see a disconnect there; unless maybe we craft a bigger, better and more robust Anti-terror police unit/squad.

UN Report Links Rwanda to Congolese Violence

“There was a drive to cut off Rwanda’s access to the conflict minerals trade, and the new M23 rebellion was created in large part to retake control of it.”

The Old Man spends three days in Burundi, state-visiting & Burundi Independence Celebration; not even a fly-past into Rwanda celebrating their Independence at the same time. Rais Kikwete balances both and attends both Events in person, Rais M7 skips both!! Vintage Kibaki, subtle and forthrightly forceful - hopefully the Tall Thin Chap will take a different tack on this devilish Ituri maneno ones and for all.

Spotted 'Eagles' HALOing, abscaling from helios, over Bujumbura juzi? Hehehe!!

Kenya-Iran oil deal is dead in the water

"...Apart from targeting the Israeli embassy, The Daily Telegraph, a British daily, reported they [two Iranian agents] toured Nairobi surveying the British High Commission, the Israeli embassy and a church in the week before their arrest. The pair made notes during drive-by surveillance in the Kenyan capital but did not take photographs for fear of raising suspicions...The Iranians were being watched the minute they arrived in Kenya on June 12, until they were arrested a week later."

I thought the deal was a dumb move. Did carry any special benefits for Kenya. Just bolstered Iran's interests even as it's agents were planning to bomb targets in Kenya.

@ON : This Radio Andalus is a major A.S. propaganda tool. Why not take it out? Are we getting anything from it? Do we really need it?

Prayer most potent weapon for KDF in Somalia battle

Even as they battle the Al Shabaab in Somalia, the 4,660 Kenyan soldiers remain a very prayerful lot. Both Muslims and Christians stick to their prayer schedules in the morning, evenings, during and after meals. They are also given time for Koran and Bible study sessions at their military camps... to read more go to:=>http://standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000060348&story_title=Prayer-most-potent-weapon-for-KDF-in-Somalia-battle

ole Nkarei wrote:UN Report Links Rwanda to Congolese Violence

“There was a drive to cut off Rwanda’s access to the conflict minerals trade, and the new M23 rebellion was created in large part to retake control of it.”

The Old Man spends three days in Burundi, state-visiting & Burundi Independence Celebration; not even a fly-past into Rwanda celebrating their Independence at the same time. Rais Kikwete balances both and attends both Events in person, Rais M7 skips both!! Vintage Kibaki, subtle and forthrightly forceful - hopefully the Tall Thin Chap will take a different tack on this devilish Ituri maneno ones and for all.

Spotted 'Eagles' HALOing, abscaling from helios, over Bujumbura juzi? Hehehe!!

The old man surely has a good foreign policy plan before he retires.
A strong-peaceful EAC. Objective, trade opportunities for jobless Kenyans, and access to more cash-flow back to the KE-economy.

The 'EAGLES'....You mean those chaps coming off that helicopter with a rope?.....Safety of such landing quite a big (-). Sniper fire would rid the copter all its load. Bloody end.

@Mwepesi

Hopefully a new and more safe platform would keep off spooky and the likes away from the free-flow of analytic culture-man.

He is coming out strongly as an espionage game-changer.
One piece about Asia-Geopolitik came out perfectly. Pakistani losing defense muscle to India with Sammy picking India as successor due to border and previous terror issues..'THE NEW PARTNER IN WAR ON TERROR=INDIA, so Pakistan went China.

Efrommers wrote:
A) These UAS acquisitions by KAF from abroad do they still have a capacity to be effective? AS is reported to be in possession of their own version of Anti-Aircraft Surveillance systems(not sure about type).

B) How willing are the proprietors of ESA-SCO able to work out some intelligence with other operations forces in the region especially KDF's version of SOCOM?

Thanks for the welcome @Efrommers.
Regarding your first question... I am not privy to KDF UAS acquisitions, but I am confident that they conducted a due diligence analysis and procured a system(s) to address their needs. Just like any product out there, there are numerous UAS with similarly varying capabilities and costs. It is up to the user/customer to identify the most optimal based on numerous factors like cost, reliability, maintainability, effectiveness, integration, management etc.

Most UAS are not easily noticeable from the ground unless one is actively scanning for them using fairly advanced active radiation sensors. Consequently, such a player will possess the capability to bring down a UAS . I sincerely doubt AS possesses such a capability.

As for the 2nd question... I don't I understand it. Do you mean European Space Agency (ESA)? Please rephrase.

@Mwepesi

Mwepesi wrote: ... so what am saying is that Yes we can have those systems but are they
sufficiently effective within our budget costs???? Having fancy gadgets
and equipment is a good thing but the approach to current security
threats matrix need to be revised. visible presence doesn't necessarily
guarantee security, other factors also have to came to play.

Absolutely! I strongly believe that the systems are indeed sufficiently effective and within our budget. As a matter of fact, I think we are five years behind schedule in deployment and adaptation of this technology. Undergrad kids in JKUAT should be building and playing around with these toys by now!

What I presented was merely a single enabling component (i.e. technology) which characterizes part of a multifaceted solution of policing and securing the border. There is of course a plethora of additional dependent and independent variables related to this problem. What you have raised is in fact just scratching the surface of the possible variables to consider and possibly control.

@Rwigi

Rwigi wrote: ...Would that be done by the police or the military? Or would be a
situation whereby the military collects the intel and then passes it
down to the police. I see a disconnect there; unless maybe we craft a
bigger, better and more robust Anti-terror police unit/squad.

I think the best approach would be to deploy the technology according to the constitutional mandate of the pertinent agency based on the nature and location the subject of interest. Remember these are just tools. A good analogy would be - both the police and KDF have guns and are at the border, how, circumstances under which they discharge those weapons are strictly governed by disparate constitutional mandates. The UAS deployment will loosely mirror this paradigm.

Further, the military tends to enjoy preferential treatment. Consequently, it is likely that not only will they possess more enduring and expensive systems, its sensors will also possess higher fidelity and resolution compared to e.g. UAS belonging to a policing entity. Moreover, aspects of the military UAS will mostly likely be armed too.

Naturally it goes without saying a lot of work is needed to bring the
Kenya Police to the current century. I am not gonna kick that can down
the road here . But you get the gist of it.

mogen wrote:Prayer most potent weapon for KDF in Somalia battle

Even as they battle the Al Shabaab in Somalia, the 4,660 Kenyan soldiers remain a very prayerful lot. Both Muslims and Christians stick to their prayer schedules in the morning, evenings, during and after meals. They are also given time for Koran and Bible study sessions at their military camps... to read more go to:=>http://standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000060348&story_title=Prayer-most-potent-weapon-for-KDF-in-Somalia-battle

"There are 200 countries in the world ... Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side. (We) pray for God to destroy our enemies. Our enemies pray for God to destroy us. Somebody's gonna be disappointed. Somebody's wasting their f***ing time. Could it be everyone?"

George Carlin
Social critic, satirist, author.

I do not believe that God will help the KDF win this war. But their training, their G3s, their determination and their legitimacy, will.

Vitruvian wrote:

mogen wrote:Prayer most potent weapon for KDF in Somalia battle

Even as they battle the Al Shabaab in Somalia, the 4,660 Kenyan soldiers remain a very prayerful lot. Both Muslims and Christians stick to their prayer schedules in the morning, evenings, during and after meals. They are also given time for Koran and Bible study sessions at their military camps... to read more go to:=>http://standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000060348&story_title=Prayer-most-potent-weapon-for-KDF-in-Somalia-battle

"There are 200 countries in the world ... Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side. (We) pray for God to destroy our enemies. Our enemies pray for God to destroy us. Somebody's gonna be disappointed. Somebody's wasting their f***ing time. Could it be everyone?"

George Carlin
Social critic, satirist, author.

I do not believe that God will help the KDF win this war. But their training, their G3s, their determination and their legitimacy, will.

Also note that none of the AMISOM forces pray to their God/gods as much as Al shabaab do. I remember in July 2010, we had visited an AMISOM position near Urubah Hotel and at that time, the militants were less than 100 metres to the left of Urubah hotel. When time to pray came, they lay down their weapons and prayed to their God. We were told that this was their routine every day-five times a day.

Valid points made, @ Kepler-Euler, @ Effrommers, @Rwigi. Though this Space Science maneno flies right over my head!! Now, where is the young 'un Cylon?

The Nexus that Kenya desperately needs to create is not just advanced collection of aggressive Intel by whomever and using whatever, but more essentially ensure as complete consumption of this Intel as possible by all relevant Agencies. Won't matter then who has what Intel Assets - Hummint and otherwise. That is not always the situation in Kenya, sadly - famously in public is the NSIS put out detailed advanced Intel of the PEV preps and players to all Security Agencies and their Oversight, but PEV still occurred and in the exact manner NSIS had deciphered.

The American Module is the ideal - tightly compartmentalized Intel Collection Agencies (CTA/CIA//FBI/NSA/DEA/Navy Intel/Army Intel/ Consular Services/ State & Metro Police Intel Units/etc) that dovetail into a Centralized Collection & Collation /Analysis Center (NSA) which then feeds a Centralized ''Decision-ing'' body which follows through to actualize the Consumption of the Intel by whomever and however. Every bird has their beak in the feeding trough.

A multiplicity of methods, systems and equipment in Collection / Collation / Analysis of Intelligence is hugely possible in American due to funding capacity and the threat matrix that justifies these enormous Finance Outlays. In Kenya, there is a Centralised Collection / Collation / Analysis body, and a Centralized 'Decision-ing body' - however, assimilation of Intel by all players has been challenged by history and human / finance / systems incapacity.

Because Kenya has become an critical frontier of this Globalised Anti-extremism war, these weaknesses have attracted both sides of this argument; an aggravation of both the Threat Matrix and the opposing Counter must result, and is in effect resulting even now. So Isaak, Johnny and Sammy are in town, and will stay in town as long as the Threat Matrix remains at these critical levels.

@Vitruvian, @Aggressor-One.
Chairman MAO had some choicy suggestions about Man-vide-Religion, which I always found unequivocally unattractive - to me. Reassurances from whatever corner and in whichever manner of a soldiers ''invisibility in battle'', and at the very least of a Soldier's ''higher Moral Compunction'', is extremely central to any motivated Soldier - from Cain to Alexander the Great, Hiltler and Montgomery, Kiirangi and Al-kebab included!! In the heat of expected Combat, every Soldier grasps for these in varied degrees.

Vitruvian wrote:

mogen wrote:Prayer most potent weapon for KDF in Somalia battle

Even as they battle the Al Shabaab in Somalia, the 4,660 Kenyan soldiers remain a very prayerful lot. Both Muslims and Christians stick to their prayer schedules in the morning, evenings, during and after meals. They are also given time for Koran and Bible study sessions at their military camps... to read more go to:=>http://standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000060348&story_title=Prayer-most-potent-weapon-for-KDF-in-Somalia-battle

"There are 200 countries in the world ... Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side. (We) pray for God to destroy our enemies. Our enemies pray for God to destroy us. Somebody's gonna be disappointed. Somebody's wasting their f***ing time. Could it be everyone?"

George Carlin
Social critic, satirist, author.

I do not believe that God will help the KDF win this war. But their training, their G3s, their determination and their legitimacy, will.

@Vitruvian
Those soldiers are not praying so that God helps them win the war. You miss the point or may have been misled by the writer of that article. It is got more to do with coping with the stresses of a combat environment. I once read the story of one Victor Frankl, a Jewish survivor of a Nazi prison. I was amazed to discover where he derived his resilience from as his fellow prisoners gave up and died one by one. When allied forces finally arrived he was the sole survivor.

About A.S. : Somali tribes reject al-Shabaab call for financing its war efforts
http://sabahionline.com/en_GB/articles/hoa/articles/features/2012/07/03/feature-02

Kepler-Euler wrote:

Efrommers wrote:
A) These UAS acquisitions by KAF from abroad do they still have a capacity to be effective? AS is reported to be in possession of their own version of Anti-Aircraft Surveillance systems(not sure about type).

B) How willing are the proprietors of ESA-SCO able to work out some intelligence with other operations forces in the region especially KDF's version of SOCOM?

Thanks for the welcome @Efrommers.
Regarding your first question... I am not privy to KDF UAS acquisitions, but I am confident that they conducted a due diligence analysis and procured a system(s) to address their needs. Just like any product out there, there are numerous UAS with similarly varying capabilities and costs. It is up to the user/customer to identify the most optimal based on numerous factors like cost, reliability, maintainability, effectiveness, integration, management etc.

Most UAS are not easily noticeable from the ground unless one is actively scanning for them using fairly advanced active radiation sensors. Consequently, such a player will possess the capability to bring down a UAS . I sincerely doubt AS possesses such a capability.

As for the 2nd question... I don't I understand it. Do you mean European Space Agency (ESA)? Please rephrase.

Welcome @Kepler-Euler,
Yes, I actually meant European Space Agency (ESA) but I have given you a detailed preview of my query check your PM . It is highly unlikely that AS may have acquired any active radiation emitting manenos.

ole Nkarei wrote:UN Report Links Rwanda to Congolese Violence

“There was a drive to cut off Rwanda’s access to the conflict minerals trade, and the new M23 rebellion was created in large part to retake control of it.”

The Old Man spends three days in Burundi, state-visiting & Burundi Independence Celebration; not even a fly-past into Rwanda celebrating their Independence at the same time. Rais Kikwete balances both and attends both Events in person, Rais M7 skips both!! Vintage Kibaki, subtle and forthrightly forceful - hopefully the Tall Thin Chap will take a different tack on this devilish Ituri maneno ones and for all.

Spotted 'Eagles' HALOing, abscaling from helios, over Bujumbura juzi? Hehehe!!

whats our stand in Burundi/Rwanda/DRC Ole Nkarei ? I thought M23 rebellion was Kagames private project ? its high time DRC join the EAC so that their conflicts can be sorted out.

ole Nkarei wrote:@Vitruvian, @Aggressor-One.
Chairman MAO had some choicy suggestions about Man-vide-Religion, which I always found unequivocally unattractive - to me. Reassurances from whatever corner and in whichever manner of a soldiers ''invisibility in battle'', and at the very least of a Soldier's ''higher Moral Compunction'', is extremely central to any motivated Soldier - from Cain to Alexander the Great, Hiltler and Montgomery, Kiirangi and Al-kebab included!! In the heat of expected Combat, every Soldier grasps for these in varied degrees.

I begrudge the comparison, though you are entitled to make it. The list of those who have made 'choicy' suggestions about Man vide Religion is virtually endless: Albert Einstein, Nelson Mandela, Alfred Nobel, Gautama Buddha, Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Bertrand Russell, Linus Pauling, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Thomas Edison, Francis Crick, James Watson, Michel Foucault, Wole Soyinka, Ed Miliband, Noam Chomsky, Bill Gates, Richard Leakey, Steven Pinker, George Soros, Gore Vidal, Olof Palme, Jean-Paul Sartre, Jimmy Wales, Slavoj Zizek, Richard Branson. Oh yeah, and George Carlin. I would much have preferred to be in their company.
Chairman Mao? Why not Kim Jong-il?
But then again, as both you and @mogen explain, there are no atheists in foxholes.

Kepler-Euler wrote:
Most UAS are not easily noticeable from the ground unless one is actively scanning for them using fairly advanced active radiation sensors. Consequently, such a player will possess the capability to bring down a UAS . I sincerely doubt AS possesses such a capability.

Actually current and previous generation drones have proven to be quite hackable using inexpensive means. Remember the "firesheep" hack employed against sammy in AF? For the most part an ordinary satellite tv dish re-purposed into a radio antenna in conjunction with firesheep s/w can be used to accomplish this task. Whereas the command and control channels are secured, the video feeds are not and have proven to be quite a challenge to encrypt on the fly.

On the other hand, don't you think ground sensor tech could be more effective along the border than aerial surveillance? The Achilles heel of the latter is the human factor. Someone has to physically sit in front of a monitor for hours on end, observe, interpret and make judgement. If you have a lazy fella, your expensive toys become nothing more than bricks.

@vitruvian You will come to be surprised that it works when men pray. I will also tell you that Israel stands, feels more secure to be in Jerusalem than in most cities in East Africa not because of military might, not because of protection from sammy but because of divine favour.

DRC, Rwanda issue. The west are hypocrites, they will excuse and even protect thin tall one simply because he probably helps the hand that scoops, I guess

@ Kepler. Thank you for that.

@Kobooz:

@vitruvian You will come to be surprised that it works when men pray. I
will also tell you that Israel stands, feels more secure to be in
Jerusalem than in most cities in East Africa not because of military
might, not because of protection from sammy but because of divine
favour.

I could not agree further with you. History time and time again has proved that a man who believes on his own strength fails. Failing to acknowledge God is recipe for irreversible downfall. It may be slow in coming but it ultimately comes.

KDF needs to train and have the best weapons but their success is dependent on whether God helps them win or not. God not being visible when soldiers fight does not mean he is not there and helping them.

@Vitruvian: God and not just training will determine whether KDF win or lose.

That is not always the situation in Kenya, sadly - famously in public is
the NSIS put out detailed advanced Intel of the PEV preps and players
to all Security Agencies and their Oversight, but PEV still occurred and
in the exact manner NSIS had deciphered.

Valid point ON. Goes to show that we still have a lot of ground to cover in matters internal security. Can this be done by first changing the training curriculum at Kiganjo and then retraining all the boys in blue? Is there will power to do this in your opinion?

The American Module is
the ideal - tightly compartmentalized Intel Collection Agencies
(CTA/CIA//FBI/NSA/DEA/Navy Intel/Army Intel/ Consular Services/ State
& Metro Police Intel Units/etc) that dovetail into a Centralized
Collection & Collation /Analysis Center (NSA) which then feeds a
Centralized ''Decision-ing'' body which follows through to actualize the
Consumption of the Intel by whomever and however. Every bird has their
beak in the feeding trough.

This still failed to avert 911. It has been argued by some that FBI or CIA/some other body did not share the intel they had in time. But I do agree that intel gathering by different units is good. How and when the intel is shared is fundamental to prevent small 911s here. Inter-agency trust is must if this is to work. E.g. Would KDF intel chaps be comfortable sharing crucial intel with the police? It takes a lot of patriotism, professionalism and character to turn down a $100,000 to let a terrorist go.

A multiplicity of methods, systems
and equipment in Collection / Collation / Analysis of Intelligence is
hugely possible in American due to funding capacity and the threat
matrix that justifies these enormous Finance Outlays. In Kenya, there is
a Centralised Collection / Collation / Analysis body, and a Centralized
'Decision-ing body' - however, assimilation of Intel by all players has
been challenged by history and human / finance / systems incapacity.

True. As we move towards Rwaza2030 we will face more robust challenges as well as create more enemies so now is the time to put our house in order.

Spotted 'Eagles' HALOing, abscaling from helios, over Bujumbura juzi? Hehehe!!

Eagles gani? Eff 15s ama some specOPs guys?

Ole Nkarei clarify. Would be great if Risasi is enjoying rides on those already.

Counter Intelligence and Policing Measures for the Government of Kenya
Introduction
The criminal intelligence service and the national security service in Kenya are responding to increasing terrorist attacks in the country reactively rather than proactively. Reactive measures are instinctive and hardly suffice to eliminate threats neither procure long-term solutions to insecurity; instead, reactive measures victimize, stigmatize members of the society besides, create a wide wedge between the police community and the civil society, particularly in the areas where reactive measures are enacted.
Research by intelligence and counter terrorism experts, one of the most obvious significant deficiencies exposed by Sunday 1st July 2012 terror attack in Garissa besides previous numerous terror attacks in Kenya, is the weakness within our intelligence agencies. These weaknesses enabled the terrorists to plan, develop, and execute their attack without detection.
Elements of Knowledge to prevent future terrorist activity
• Who are the terrorists amongst Kenyans?
• Who are the leaders of these terrorists?
• Where are they located in the country?
• How are they organized in terms of operations and communication capacity?
• What are they planning to do in the short and long-term future?
• How are they financed and who finances them to operate?
Terrorist Cells in Kenya; Key Factors to Consider
• Al-Shababb Terrorist groups is associated with a political-religious activity hence require a hierarchical structure.
• The structure facilitates effective coordination of terrorist violence with political-religious action.
• As such, Al-Shabaab avoids particular targets such as Muslim faith facilities, and Churches in support of political-religious objectives.
• Al-Shababb Terrorist group cells in Kenya serves the role of building blocks with the primary reasons for their existence being security.
• The compromise of a cell cannot compromise the identity, location, of other cells since personnel within one cell are often unaware of the existence of other cells. Terrorists may organize cells based on family or employment relationships, on a geographic basis, or by specific functions such as direct action and intelligence.
• The terrorist group may also form multifunctional cells. The terrorist group uses the cells to control its members.
• Cell members remain in close contact with each other to provide emotional support and to prevent desertion or breach of security procedures.
• The cell leader is normally the only person who communicates and coordinates with higher levels and other cells.
Problem of Reactive Measures to Terrorist Attacks
1. Security and Intelligence officers often support that better intelligence will come about only if intelligence and police officers commit to a troop-intensive, “population-centric” strategy to convince innocent locals of security in return for valuable information openly.
However, this approach is wrong for the following reasons
i) It fails to recognize that Al-Shabaab militant leaders operate from Somalia and not Garissa-Nairobi-Mombasa. As such, there is no use to assume that innocent Garissa civilians, especially those of Somali origin, possess the information necessary to capture or kill key Al-Shabaab leaders.
ii) It is wrong in assuming Garissa/Kenyan citizens do not share information on Al-Shabaab and al Qaeda operations because they fear reprisals from militants. What if, instead, Garissa residents simply don’t know where the militant hide and how they planned/plan to attack? This is plausible since high-level intelligence about criminal enterprises usually requires insider knowledge, which innocent bystanders, by definition, lack.
iii) The strategy places much emphasis on troop “numbers” and minimizes the importance of troop “type.” where it is foolhardy to send swarms of security officers who are without basic training on anti-terror operations, guerrilla warfare, criminal psychology, and ethno-religious paradigms.
2) Terrorism is planned and intended to achieve specific-principal objectives hence it is a rationally employed, specifically selected tactic, not a random act.
a) Victims of terrorist violence are often of little import, with one being as good for the terrorists' purposes as another is.
b) Terrorists target selection can appear random or unprovoked however, the target always contains significant symbolic value to levels of eliciting emotional responses as desired by the terrorists since the terrorists hopes of the violence is to climax the psychological war on his/her enemy.
Counter-Intelligence, Terrorist Tracking/Detection, Terrorist Neutralization Measures
1. Intelligence Community Joint Task Force in terrorist cell detection and isolation
2. Terrorist Counter Intelligence joint taskforce alongside local law-enforcement agencies and community assist structure for covert screening of suspected terrorist operatives
3. Creation of terrorist identification database to assist in terrorist watch listing and list dissemination
4. Consolidated terrorist watch-list screening and substantive watcher/surveillance (invalid activity detection i.e site=possible target: observation by suspects).
5. Tracking/following, identifying destinations and associations of mobile suspects to establish cells
Other Raft of Measures to Increase Threat Preemption and Terrorist Activity Early Warning Capacity
1) Optimize use of terrorist threat-related information, expertise, and capabilities to conduct threat analysis and inform collection strategies;
2) Create a structure that ensures information sharing across both state and private inteligence and security agency lines;
3) Integrate domestic and foreign terrorist-related information and form the most comprehensive possible threat picture.
4) Provide terrorist threat assessments consistently
5) Possible target covert lock-down= laying traps for terrorist=counter measures including anti-terror commandos.
The contents of this documented are derivates of international security measures by security intelligence organizations to preempt terror threats and safeguard national security.
This document is generated by Strategic Intelligence to help mitigate terrorist attack risks in Kenya and elsewhere
The documented is not copyrighted and can be reproduced and resubmitted to security departments.

Origin: Strategic Intelligence
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rwigi wrote:@ Kepler. Thank you for that.

@Kobooz:

@vitruvian You will come to be surprised that it works when men pray. I
will also tell you that Israel stands, feels more secure to be in
Jerusalem than in most cities in East Africa not because of military
might, not because of protection from sammy but because of divine
favour.

I could not agree further with you. History time and time again has proved that a man who believes on his own strength fails. Failing to acknowledge God is recipe for irreversible downfall. It may be slow in coming but it ultimately comes.

KDF needs to train and have the best weapons but their success is dependent on whether God helps them win or not. God not being visible when soldiers fight does not mean he is not there and helping them.

@Vitruvian: God and not just training will determine whether KDF win or lose.

Why should God help KDF and not the more pious Al-Shabaab? Are we not all his children? Are Al-Shabaab evil or have they simply strayed? And if the latter, in His omniscience and omnibenevolence, can He not find room for forgiveness and put them on the right path?
I have never been in a foxhole or faced the prospect of imminent death but have been under extreme stress on many occasions. Reasoning and level-headedness, as well as MY will - not blind faith - got me through. My experiences, therefore, may be different from yours so please understand that I do not place much emphasis on a speculative and indeterminable ethereal being alleged to possess superhuman powers.
We are all atheists. The difference between you and I may only be in that, as an enlightened freethinker, I believe in one god less than you do, of which there are so many to choose from. I am simply more atheist than you are.
There is ample empirical evidence for most everything that surrounds us and my personal choice has been to follow the more difficult route - understanding. I don't want to believe. I want to know.

This, however, NOT being the right forum for such a debate, I will leave it with the aphorism quoted above - there are no atheists in foxholes. Which, considering man's fickle nature, is not only to be expected but also understood.

True according to SIN analyst. If the military has been requested to offer assistance on matters security, then their
presence should be at the shadows. But with these growing “impending” threats, only a non-military strategy on top
of a military incursion would better preempt any anticipated short-term tactical threats. The military might be
handy to preempt such threats through establishing their own anti-terror police units, but symbolically, their long-term
presence in internal security matters may purvey a grim picture especially if they commence enforcing security
motivated restrictions (Curfews, Checkpoints,....etc).

Extremists are not a monolithic-entity which means they have their own evolving components appertaining to
intelligence collection from civilian, command/control infrastructure. The caveat of weakening popular support
for terrorism may not have immediate results on terrorist recruitment. Terrorism is a reality but
insurgency is what needs to be demobilized because it may take decades to subside. So indeed a proactive
rather than a reactive measure is needed.

To yield more success against terrorism and counter insurgency, the
law-enforcement agencies must;

I) Start establishing rapport with community leaders/police/civilian--trust building.
II) Create an excellent inter-service intelligence policy.
III) Securing borders; restrict Border crossings to deny insurgents a sanctuary and to protect national sovereignty.
IV) Creation of Police/military rapid-reaction units to respond to preempt insurgency threats.

Counterinsurgency Operations, must highlight the need for the creation of imperative expansions to
capable indigenous forces, which must have a capacity to prosecute insurgents.
The use of indigenous forces to prosecute insurgents/guerrilla militia can provide a significant increase
of indigenous forces on the ground to yield an exponential intelligence on insurgency and its infrastructure.
The focus of civil/military plans/operations must zero-in in any war against terror, the local people with
support of govt. Winning their hearts and minds must be one of the objective of govt’s efforts.
..One case in point and successful scenario within the republic is the tip-off from the public that enabled
those gallant Recce squad members to conduct a successful security operation and convicted the fella with
dangerous weapons.