Kenya Defence Forces (KDF)

cylon wrote:Alshabab is fleeing the city and they are going to hit hard the advancing troops by road and this is where the battle will begin, This will be where alshabab will be slaughtered like sheep KDF is already waiting for them so R.I.P. Alshabab....

A round of applause to Amisom and the AU, the SNA, Somalia President, everybody has shed blood for this battlefield of Somalia we have done it as neighbors, as brothers and as friends we have final brought peace to the Horn. Now we will leave the battlefield as brothers, the somali people will forever remember us



Next we can probably go liberate Mali since ECOWAS is getting coldfeet and can't reach a consensus, AU should allows us to jump in....

This is the right kind of thinking. If only we could establish the East African military cooperation agreement this would create a deterrence in the region and of course create investor confidence. Look at the EU all countries maintain strong militaries but not for the sake of intimidating their neighbours. My friend owned the only car in the village and envious neighbors refused to grant him permission to pass thru their shambas until one of them had an emergency at night and my friend was the only salvation. To cut the story short a road was created that night and it has never been closed. U get the moral of the story. Whatever asset is in the region is ours lets celebrate each other.

Nesta wrote:Hi,

I have a few questions:

1. I've heard of KDF jets in Bardhare; does this belong to the Sector 2?

Bardera (Baardheere) is in Gedo, Jubba Valley. I understand that, parts of Gedo are in Sector I but it does appear that Baardheere is in the Gedo region that falls in Sector II. I presume it will form part of the Jubbaland Administration that is in the offing.

wrote: Where are Sierra leone troops? I thot they were supposed to be in sector 2, yet ON once said they were in Mog "policing"

The last time I heard Sierra Leonians were assigned the responsibility of training the Somalia National Army

wrote:3. Have the UPDF/BDF reached their 12,000 limit? Apart from the 9500 troops in sector 1, where are the other 2500 troops?

Uganda overdeployed by 600 men who were sent back home.
http://www.newvision.co.ug/mobile/Detail.aspx?NewsID=633965&CatID=1

Media houses continue to disparage KDF. Check this one from Somalia Report. [Their source of revenue is all but gone. In fact, soon, they might have no piracy or al shabaab stories to sell. See what they write:

...Somehow the Kenyans managed to coordinate air strikes by aging Northrop jets with no smart bombs, even less precise rocket strikes from helicopters and artillery strikes from aging ships. All the while offloading terrified Kenya land
forces from bobbing ships onto beaches at night. The strategy was solid, execution well done and U.S. and ally-provided intelligence and coordination is credited with some of the success. Not to mention constant training by both US forces in Kenya and onsite foreign advisors contracted through the AU (but paid for by the UN and the US)....

http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/topic/47[/justify]

mogen wrote:Media houses continue to disparage KDF. Check this one from Somalia Report. [Their source of revenue is all but gone. In fact, soon, they might have no piracy or al shabaab stories to sell. See what they write:

...Somehow the Kenyans managed to coordinate air strikes by aging Northrop jets with no smart bombs, even less precise rocket strikes from helicopters and artillery strikes from aging ships. All the while offloading terrified Kenya land
forces from bobbing ships onto beaches at night. The strategy was solid, execution well done and U.S. and ally-provided intelligence and coordination is credited with some of the success. Not to mention constant training by both US forces in Kenya and onsite foreign advisors contracted through the AU (but paid for by the UN and the US)....

http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/topic/47[/justify]

Oh yes, but the aging jets, naval ships and terrified soldiers are delivering results. Why give a damn.

Olekoima wrote:

mogen wrote:Media houses continue to disparage KDF. Check this one from Somalia Report. [Their source of revenue is all but gone. In fact, soon, they might have no piracy or al shabaab stories to sell. See what they write:

...Somehow the Kenyans managed to coordinate air strikes by aging Northrop jets with no smart bombs, even less precise rocket strikes from helicopters and artillery strikes from aging ships. All the while offloading terrified Kenya land
forces from bobbing ships onto beaches at night. The strategy was solid, execution well done and U.S. and ally-provided intelligence and coordination is credited with some of the success. Not to mention constant training by both US forces in Kenya and onsite foreign advisors contracted through the AU (but paid for by the UN and the US)....

http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/topic/47[/justify]

Oh yes, but the aging jets, naval ships and terrified soldiers are delivering results. Why give a damn.

@olekoima

An interesting article, read on:-
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/ethiopi/articles/20120930.aspx

mogen wrote:Media houses continue to disparage KDF. Check this one from Somalia Report. [Their source of revenue is all but gone. In fact, soon, they might have no piracy or al shabaab stories to sell. See what they write:

...Somehow the Kenyans managed to coordinate air strikes by aging Northrop jets with no smart bombs, even less precise rocket strikes from helicopters and artillery strikes from aging ships. All the while offloading terrified Kenya land
forces from bobbing ships onto beaches at night. The strategy was solid, execution well done and U.S. and ally-provided intelligence and coordination is credited with some of the success. Not to mention constant training by both US forces in Kenya and onsite foreign advisors contracted through the AU (but paid for by the UN and the US)....

http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/topic/47[/justify]

Well, @mogen, let's see now.

Somehow:
surgical airstrikes were carried out by ageing aircraft using dumb bombs and unguided missiles. Precise shelling of enemy positions was carried out by ageing if not derelict warships. Terrified land forces conducted a text-book beach landing, secured the beach head, drove into an urban warfare zone and routed the enemy with no reported (or at best minimal) casualties or collateral damage. The US and its allies are jostling to furnish us with intel. Our troops are trained by the best on the planet. The AS are on the run, KDF territory is under civilian administration and the Somalis there have a semblance of normalcy for the first time in 20 years. All this without spending a shilling of our own money.

As compared to:
I dunno ... say, deploying billions of dollars worth of warships, jets, Black Hawks and satellites to support 25,000 troops only to get your teeth kicked in so bad they just had to make a Hollywood blockbuster about it?

What does that tell you about the KDF?

Kenya police seniors must be sacked for failing in their jobs.
in the case of garrisa..why only two policemen patrolling after dark ? and then they get shot from behind?any policeman anywhere in Kenya must be aware that they are now an easy target by terrorists and should change their tactics of operating



http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Two+APs+shot+dead+in+night+attack+/-/1056/1521694/-/mbf5ua/-/index.html

This is a map i posted here on February 22, 2012 on how Kismayo will be taken...

https://eastafrican.forumotion.com/t26p240-kenya-defence-force

Map




I also hear some news in the grapevines something new is landing in LAB....

KDF is right to employ a wait and see strategy while scouting the town left by the fleeing alshabab.
there are reports of masked snipers lurking in tall buildings and other places with an easy observation of lines of sight
the best option is to use local knowledge and map out such strategically placed structures and sent in special teams in choppers to take them out....or approach the city avoiding main routes and use the back gardens roads and populated housing estates inch by inch.
the locals are said to be ready to welcome the liberating forces with open arms

also it will make sense to target the forests and the surrounding places where the alshabab have fled with their heavy weaponry.. and hit them hard because there is no risk to civilians ..anyone hiding in the forests should be considered fair game..

countersniper wrote:KDF is right to employ a wait and see strategy while scouting the town left by the fleeing alshabab.
there are reports of masked snipers lurking in tall buildings and other places with an easy observation of lines of sight
the best option is to use local knowledge and map out such strategically placed structures and sent in special teams in choppers to take them out....or approach the city avoiding main routes and use the back gardens roads and populated housing estates inch by inch.
the locals are said to be ready to welcome the liberating forces with open arms

also it will make sense to target the forests and the surrounding places where the alshabab have fled with their heavy weaponry.. and hit them hard because there is no risk to civilians ..anyone hiding in the forests should be considered fair game..

@countersniper,

I do not doubt anything you say but AS as subtle as they are are happy to give KDF a chance to wait and observe.

I know you will agree that KDF infantry will not try to sweep for threats among Chai town civilian populations bcoz Some of 40th lost their lives on this manner not forgetting the baiting collateral Zom populations

Have these elders started creating problems even before the city's liberation is complete?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzxDjz1QhK8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/2012101112944964743.html



JUST SEEN AN UPDATE ON ALJAZEERA from that biased mohamed adow saying that he has been on the phone with some one who has told him that about thirty or so kdf/somali troops entered the city center had a meal at a restaurant ad went back to their base on the outside of kismayu...

countersniper wrote:http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/2012101112944964743.html

JUST SEEN AN UPDATE ON ALJAZEERA from that biased mohamed adow saying that he has been on the phone with some one who has told him that about thirty or so kdf/somali troops entered the city center had a meal at a restaurant ad went back to their base on the outside of kismayu...

Apparently, a team of soldiers went into the city and left at sunset. I expect massive troop movement into the city once they have combed the place and taken out the hiding A.S. snipers. Generals have it planned out. but the usual western media and biased Somali commentators are at t as usual. Lakini shauri yao.

https://youtu.be/ZzTmVKZHYJc

Seems like civilian vessels have been contracted to transport KDF hardware into Chai Town.

A ship carries Kenyan Defence Forces (KDF) trucks towards Somalia's port town of Kismayu October 1, 2012. Kenyan warships shelled the southern port of Kismayu overnight after al Qaeda-linked rebels said they had abandoned the city, residents said. Stunned by an assault by sea, air and ground forces late on Friday night, al Shabaab rebels fled the city that had been their key source of revenue, retreating to surrounding forests and towns. *******/Thomas Mukoya

Here is KNS Jasiri in Action



And seems like eitrher KNS Nyayo or Umoja had it main naval gun re-installed. It is my understanding that this cannon was initially removed after the mid-life re-fitting.

Some interesting read... Comments welcome

http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped

Also some chai town theather images

Brigadier Anthony Ngere (C), African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) Sector Two Commander and head of the Kenyan Contingent serving with AMISOM, greeting field commanders in Saa'moja, approximately 7km (4.3 miles) outside the Somali port city of Kismayu in this October 1, 2012 handout photograph released by the African Union-United Nations Information Support Team. *******/African Union-United Nations Information Support Team/Stuart Price/Handout

Brigadier Anthony Ngere (C), African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) Sector Two Commander and head of the Kenyan Contingent serving with AMISOM, greets Brigadier General Ismail Sahardin Kaydsan of the Somali National Army (SNA) after arriving at Saa'moja, approximately 7km (4.3 miles) outside the Somali port city of Kismayu in this October 1, 2012 handout photograph released by the African Union-United Nations Information Support Team. Somalia's al Shabaab rebels retreated from the southern port of Kismayu overnight, abandoning the last major bastion of their five-year revolt to an offensive by African Union and Somali government troops. *******/African Union-United Nations Information Support Team/Stuart Price/Handout

Soldiers of the Kenyan contingent serving with the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) prepare to board a resupply convoy vehicle at their sector headquarters in Dhobley, southern Somalia, in this September 30, 2012 handout photo released by the African Union-United Nations Information Support. Kenyan warships shelled the southern Somali port of Kismayu overnight, the last stronghold of al Qaeda-linked al Shabaab rebels, after the rebels said they had abandoned the city, residents said on Sunday. Al Shabaab, which formally merged with al Qaeda in February, has been steadily losing its footholds under sustained pressure from African Union peacekeeping forces (AMISOM) and Somali government troops for the past year. *******/Stuart Price/African Union-United Nations Information Support/Handout






Soldiers of the Kenyan contingent serving with the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) sit in a military vehicle as part of a resupply convoy at their sector headquarters in Dhobley, southern Somalia, in this September 30, 2012 handout photo released by the African Union-United Nations Information Support. *******/Stuart Price/African Union-United Nations Information Support/Handout






A soldier from the Kenyan Contingent serving with the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) carries a drum to be filled with water in Saa'moja, approximately 7km (4.3 miles) outside the Somali port city of Kismayu in this October 1, 2012 handout photograph released by the African Union-United Nations Information Support Team. *******/African Union-United Nations Information Support Team/Stuart Price/Handout






Soldiers of the Kenyan Contingent serving with the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) sit on top of a fighting vehicle in Saa'moja, approximately 7km (4.3 miles) outside the Somali port city of Kismayu in this October 1, 2012 handout photograph released by the African Union-United Nations Information Support Team. *******/African Union-United Nations Information Support Team/Stuart Price/Handout






A resupply convoy of the Kenyan contingent serving with the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) leaves their sector headquarters in Dhobley, southern Somalia, in this September 30, 2012 handout photo released by the African Union-United Nations Information Support. *******/Stuart Price/African Union-United Nations Information Support/Handout

Great pics on the action in Kismayu.

Kepler-Euler wrote:Some interesting read... Comments welcome

http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped

It is the first time I've seen the website www.debka.com . Does anyone know who owns/publishes the website ?

mogen wrote:

http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped

It is the first time I've seen the website www.debka.com . Does anyone know who owns/publishes the website ? [/quote]

Hi Mogen

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About the Israeli connection in the Sledge Hammer ....
And the French.

KDF has performed outstandingly.

Analyst wrote:

mogen wrote:

http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped

It is the first time I've seen the website www.debka.com . Does anyone know who owns/publishes the website ?

Analyst wrote:Hi Mogen

Debka is a security intelligence website run from Canada
About the Israeli connection in the Sledge Hammer ....
And the French...KDF has performed outstandingly.

@Analyst

Thanks. Agreed. AMISOM/SNA forces have performed magnificiently. Confounding both friend and foe. Those who have been deriding our forces will be forced to rethink their baseless prejudices.

I hear KDF/AMISOM & allies have literary poured troops into the city proper. We will shortly hear more details of progress made so far.

Reporters have been flown over the city but couldn't land as yet - https://youtu.be/8MeokHCX--M
KDF/AMISOM soldiers in Kismayu https://youtu.be/FIM_WIrfBlE

About the KDF 'Civilian' ship...M.V Alpha Kirawira, Registered in Siera Leone and charted by the United Nations Support Office for AMISOM (UNSOA). This brings me back to a concern i raised back at the Chronicle days, the inadequate capacity of our amphibious support ships. However i think this amphib op on Chismayo highlighted the inadequacy of these long serving amphibious assets.

Analyst wrote:
mogen wrote:


http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped


It is the first time I've seen the website www.debka.com . Does anyone know who owns/publishes the website ?

Is it only me or do you guys also get the feeling that we can't do anything on our own? Let's break down the diplomatic language here. French battle and supply ships operating out of Kenya’s Indian Ocean port of Mombasa dropped supplies, ammo and fresh Kenyan reinforcements on the Somali coast. to me this translates as Kenya Navy is unable to adequately give its troops naval gunfire support, support or resupply them. Then US did contribute to the Kenyan effort with drones gathering intelligence for the Kenyan army and guiding the aim of its artillery which isKenya Air Force can't do a recce of any value to it's forces and the the Army does a piss poor job of firing artillery. Hehehehe but here's where it get me Israeli military assistance to Kenya came in three forms:
1. Israeli military officers advised in the planning of Kenyan field operations. They recommended systematic special ops raids behind Shabaab lines to generate disarray in enemy ranks instead of rapid advances to seize large tracts of territory.
2. Israel supplied Nairobi with the weapons appropriate for these tactics, including drones and field intelligence equipment.
3. Israeli intelligence, police and special ops specialists in counter-terrorism counseled Kenyan internal security authorities on security in the big towns.Not only did we not know what to do in Somalia, we also didn't have the arms for the job nor the skill to pacify and advance from the towns we had captured . Without the west, what can we thick Africans do?

Soldiers of the Kenyan contingent serving with the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) Silhoutted against the sky in Saa Moja 7 KM from Kismayo

Soldiers
of the Kenyan contingent serving with the African Union Mission in
Somalia (AMISOM) disembark from a vehicle at their Sector Headquarters
in the town of Dhobley

Soldiers
of the Kenyan contingent serving with the African Union Mission in
Somalia (AMISOM) walk past a watch tower at their Sector Headquarters in
the town of Dhobley, Southern Somalia

Brigadier
Anthony Ngere (centre) the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM)
commander of Sector Two and head of the Kenyan contingent serving with
AMISOM, discusses with senior officers at their Sector Headquarters in
the town of Dhobley,

Soldiers
of the Kenyan contingent serving with the African Union Mission in
Somalia (AMISOM) line up as part of a re-supply convoy at their Sector
Headquarters in the town of Dhobley, Southern Somalia.

Debka is just an IDF version of SIN. Talking of SIN; has anyone noticed that it's down?

And why did the 450 troops that went into kismayu go back?

Nesta wrote:Debka is just an IDF version of SIN. Talking of SIN; has anyone noticed that it's down?

And why did the 450 troops that went into kismayu go back?

SIN died soon as kdf landed in kismayu. dont know why....

The latest information is that KDF and SNA have now taken full control of the city of kismayu..ie the police station,the central prison,the new airport where the kdf is expected to land aircraft within next 24 hours.

my crude suggestion on how to defeat the suspected planted IEDs is to bring in large herds of cattle/camels/donkeys and goats and drive them enmasse through all the streets at speed over and over with soldiers following at safe distances..the surviving animals to be given to wanainchi locally.. as gifts... watu wapewe nyama...

countersniper wrote:

Nesta wrote:Debka is just an IDF version of SIN. Talking of SIN; has anyone noticed that it's down?

And why did the 450 troops that went into kismayu go back?

SIN died soon as kdf landed in kismayu. dont know why....

The latest information is that KDF and SNA have now taken full control of the city of kismayu..ie the police station,the central prison,the new airport where the kdf is expected to land aircraft within next 24 hours.

my crude suggestion on how to defeat the suspected planted IEDs is to bring in large herds of cattle/camels/donkeys and goats and drive them enmasse through all the streets at speed over and over with soldiers following at safe distances..the surviving animals to be given to wanainchi locally.. as gifts... watu wapewe nyama...

@C.Sniper, ehe ehe ehe What an ingenious idea. Run many heavy animals thro the place over and over. surviving ones to be donated to locals.

SIN is got technical issues. i suspect a malware attack, possibly by one of its enemies, incl. alkebabs. I hear the airport has been demined, surrounding area secured and is ready for use.

countersniper wrote:

Nesta wrote:Debka is just an IDF version of SIN. Talking of SIN; has anyone noticed that it's down?

And why did the 450 troops that went into kismayu go back?

SIN died soon as kdf landed in kismayu. dont know why....

The latest information is that KDF and SNA have now taken full control of the city of kismayu..ie the police station,the central prison,the new airport where the kdf is expected to land aircraft within next 24 hours.

my crude suggestion on how to defeat the suspected planted IEDs is to bring in large herds of cattle/camels/donkeys and goats and drive them enmasse through all the streets at speed over and over with soldiers following at safe distances..the surviving animals to be given to wanainchi locally.. as gifts... watu wapewe nyama...

heh hehe heh....very funny. wo! i see we have tanks in sector 2

jasiri wrote:About the KDF 'Civilian' ship...M.V Alpha Kirawira, Registered in Siera Leone and charted by the United Nations Support Office for AMISOM (UNSOA). This brings me back to a concern i raised back at the Chronicle days, the inadequate capacity of our amphibious support ships. However i think this amphib op on Chismayo highlighted the inadequacy of these long serving amphibious assets.

Analyst wrote:
mogen wrote:


http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped


It is the first time I've seen the website www.debka.com . Does anyone know who owns/publishes the website ?

Is it only me or do you guys also get the feeling that we can't do anything on our own? Let's break down the diplomatic language here. French battle and supply ships operating out of Kenya’s Indian Ocean port of Mombasa dropped supplies, ammo and fresh Kenyan reinforcements on the Somali coast. to me this translates as Kenya Navy is unable to adequately give its troops naval gunfire support, support or resupply them. Then US did contribute to the Kenyan effort with drones gathering intelligence for the Kenyan army and guiding the aim of its artillery which isKenya Air Force can't do a recce of any value to it's forces and the the Army does a piss poor job of firing artillery. Hehehehe but here's where it get me Israeli military assistance to Kenya came in three forms:
1. Israeli military officers advised in the planning of Kenyan field operations. They recommended systematic special ops raids behind Shabaab lines to generate disarray in enemy ranks instead of rapid advances to seize large tracts of territory.
2. Israel supplied Nairobi with the weapons appropriate for these tactics, including drones and field intelligence equipment.
3. Israeli intelligence, police and special ops specialists in counter-terrorism counseled Kenyan internal security authorities on security in the big towns.Not only did we not know what to do in Somalia, we also didn't have the arms for the job nor the skill to pacify and advance from the towns we had captured . Without the west, what can we thick Africans do?

cool down bratha.....even the israelis are supplied and advised by sammy. babysteps we will learn and reach there
but what matters to me is we led the incursion and our footprints are all over kismayu ama?

timoh wrote:

jasiri wrote:About the KDF 'Civilian' ship...M.V Alpha Kirawira, Registered in Siera Leone and charted by the United Nations Support Office for AMISOM (UNSOA). This brings me back to a concern i raised back at the Chronicle days, the inadequate capacity of our amphibious support ships. However i think this amphib op on Chismayo highlighted the inadequacy of these long serving amphibious assets.

Analyst wrote:
mogen wrote:
http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped


It is the first time I've seen the website www.debka.com . Does anyone know who owns/publishes the website ?

Is it only me or do you guys also get the feeling that we can't do anything on our own? Let's break down the diplomatic language here. French battle and supply ships operating out of Kenya’s Indian Ocean port of Mombasa dropped supplies, ammo and fresh Kenyan reinforcements on the Somali coast. to me this translates as Kenya Navy is unable to adequately give its troops naval gunfire support, support or resupply them. Then US did contribute to the Kenyan effort with drones gathering intelligence for the Kenyan army and guiding the aim of its artillery which isKenya Air Force can't do a recce of any value to it's forces and the the Army does a piss poor job of firing artillery. Hehehehe but here's where it get me Israeli military assistance to Kenya came in three forms:
1. Israeli military officers advised in the planning of Kenyan field operations. They recommended systematic special ops raids behind Shabaab lines to generate disarray in enemy ranks instead of rapid advances to seize large tracts of territory.
2. Israel supplied Nairobi with the weapons appropriate for these tactics, including drones and field intelligence equipment.
3. Israeli intelligence, police and special ops specialists in counter-terrorism counseled Kenyan internal security authorities on security in the big towns.Not only did we not know what to do in Somalia, we also didn't have the arms for the job nor the skill to pacify and advance from the towns we had captured . Without the west, what can we thick Africans do?

cool down bratha.....even the israelis are supplied and advised by sammy. babysteps we will learn and reach there
but what matters to me is we led the incursion and our footprints are all over kismayu ama?[url=https://eastafrican.forumotion.com/javascript:emoticon ()] [/url]

it is our war, our commanders wrote the script, our uniforms executed the attack with a finese that awed many and shocked our enemy who fled shitting in their pants. everything else is a minor detail.

“Key strategic locations under KDF control,” Major Chirchir stated in one of the posts.


He stated that the troops had detonated Improvised Explosive Devices
(IEDs) planted by the militants in the airport and added that the
military will land its aircrafts at the facility once it is secure.


On Tuesday, African Union troops backed by tanks entered Kismayu for
the first time since the Al Qaeda-linked Al Shabaab fled the port city
after a surprise offensive by Kenyan and Somali troops


Residents said the troops opened fire in the air to disperse people who had gathered to watch the tanks rolling into the city.


"AU tanks and Somali military vehicles have taken positions in
Kismayu, people have welcomed us," General Ismail Sahardiid, the
commander of Somali government forces told Reuters.


There were reports of an explosion hours after the troops entered
the city but it was not clear whether there were any casualties.
awesome... i remember ON saying tanks will be a sign of superiority(or sth like that) once we enter kismayu. also read in that israeli website that kenya will invest in reconstructing kismayu (great) now am wondering about the exit strategy

timoh wrote:

jasiri wrote:About the KDF 'Civilian' ship...M.V Alpha Kirawira, Registered in Siera Leone and charted by the United Nations Support Office for AMISOM (UNSOA). This brings me back to a concern i raised back at the Chronicle days, the inadequate capacity of our amphibious support ships. However i think this amphib op on Chismayo highlighted the inadequacy of these long serving amphibious assets.

Analyst wrote:
mogen wrote:


http://www.debka.com/article/22396/Kenyan-army%E2%80%99s-outstanding-victory-over-Al-Qaeda%E2%80%99s-Somali-Shabaab-Israeli-advisers-helped


It is the first time I've seen the website www.debka.com . Does anyone know who owns/publishes the website ?

Is it only me or do you guys also get the feeling that we can't do anything on our own? Let's break down the diplomatic language here. French battle and supply ships operating out of Kenya’s Indian Ocean port of Mombasa dropped supplies, ammo and fresh Kenyan reinforcements on the Somali coast. to me this translates as Kenya Navy is unable to adequately give its troops naval gunfire support, support or resupply them. Then US did contribute to the Kenyan effort with drones gathering intelligence for the Kenyan army and guiding the aim of its artillery which isKenya Air Force can't do a recce of any value to it's forces and the the Army does a piss poor job of firing artillery. Hehehehe but here's where it get me Israeli military assistance to Kenya came in three forms:
1. Israeli military officers advised in the planning of Kenyan field operations. They recommended systematic special ops raids behind Shabaab lines to generate disarray in enemy ranks instead of rapid advances to seize large tracts of territory.
2. Israel supplied Nairobi with the weapons appropriate for these tactics, including drones and field intelligence equipment.
3. Israeli intelligence, police and special ops specialists in counter-terrorism counseled Kenyan internal security authorities on security in the big towns.Not only did we not know what to do in Somalia, we also didn't have the arms for the job nor the skill to pacify and advance from the towns we had captured . Without the west, what can we thick Africans do?

cool down bratha.....even the israelis are supplied and advised by sammy. babysteps we will learn and reach there
but what matters to me is we led the incursion and our footprints are all over kismayu ama?

He was just being sarcastic.

timoh wrote:“Key strategic locations under KDF control,” Major Chirchir stated in one of the posts.


He stated that the troops had detonated Improvised Explosive Devices
(IEDs) planted by the militants in the airport and added that the
military will land its aircrafts at the facility once it is secure.


On Tuesday, African Union troops backed by tanks entered Kismayu for
the first time since the Al Qaeda-linked Al Shabaab fled the port city
after a surprise offensive by Kenyan and Somali troops


Residents said the troops opened fire in the air to disperse people who had gathered to watch the tanks rolling into the city.


"AU tanks and Somali military vehicles have taken positions in
Kismayu, people have welcomed us," General Ismail Sahardiid, the
commander of Somali government forces told Reuters.


There were reports of an explosion hours after the troops entered
the city but it was not clear whether there were any casualties.
awesome... i remember ON saying tanks will be a sign of superiority(or sth like that) once we enter kismayu. also read in that israeli website that kenya will invest in reconstructing kismayu (great) now am wondering about the exit strategy

Al shabaab had planted a bomb in one of the government buildings. bomb was safely detonated by KDF.

Checkpoints have been set up, and eyewitnesses say whenever military vehicles went past, residents would cheer and wave at them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19803350