Kenya Defence Forces (KDF)

ole Nkarei wrote:

timoh wrote:ON...give us the lowdown man.watsup withem helios

Trying. Without risking my pips!

Combat Night Ops simulation in array and in squadron. Whole works. Thunderous though quick and furtive over-flights - unmistakable signature ata kama umelala mlevi bans!. The beasts are nothing like the MD500 or the Z-9w, by gawd!

asquadron ofthe havocs!!!!.... amazing.

ole Nkarei wrote:How is is possible that not one of the bat-eared-eagle-eyed military buffs on TEA has made contact with the frequency of night helio bedlam over Nailovi skies, eh? And several other urban centres along the entire Southern, Central Kenya and Ilemi-Wajir Axis! Eeeiish!

something tells me the kenyan press is sleeping on the job on this. in other cultures such activity would have been reported on as soon as happens but kenyan press is so fixated on politics that they are not serving kenyans well.
BTW i will be down there for three weeks during the election thing ..i will sniff around and sure to come up with something.
i will be carrying with me all the time a very serious camera just in case ..i dont want to do a mchoraji :Daaaaa just joking...

and i hope to visit a few friends in the many barracks around town..for a drink as well...

Karibu, bro. Am sure you shall enjoy your stay. @ON - any particular significance in the area of choice for the exercise?

countersniper wrote:

ole Nkarei wrote:How is is possible that not one of the bat-eared-eagle-eyed military buffs on TEA has made contact with the frequency of night helio bedlam over Nailovi skies, eh? And several other urban centres along the entire Southern, Central Kenya and Ilemi-Wajir Axis! Eeeiish!

something tells me the kenyan press is sleeping on the job on this. in other cultures such activity would have been reported on as soon as happens but kenyan press is so fixated on politics that they are not serving kenyans well.
BTW i will be down there for three weeks during the election thing ..i will sniff around and sure to come up with something.
i will be carrying with me all the time a very serious camera just in case ..i dont want to do a mchoraji :Daaaaa just joking...

and i hope to visit a few friends in the many barracks around town..for a drink as well...

@Technician

Nothing sinister. Training in varied conditions, is all. Putting these beautiful birds through as full a range of their awesome capacities as possible. Flying three teams in close proximity in pitch darkness in alternating speeds and attitude and direction and hostile topography and without visible ID lights and complete radio shutdown is almost as savage as putting a hungry lion in small cage with a fattened wildebeest!

Cycoh 'DUDUS' wrote: ... ... Has Gabriel terminated his half-considered ambition of transffering the capital from Harare to Xvimba district-his hometown? ... ...

That Mugabe is trying to move the capital to his hometown is a far-fetching by the press. Mt Humpden (highlighted red) is 15 km (in a straight line) from the present CBD. Kutama (Mugabe's village, highlighted blued) is 70 km away so the new CBD will still be 65km from his home.



Not sure if they can afford it. They could get the Chinese to build the parliament and then let all the other Chinese investments go there. ... ... It wull still take time and I am not holding my breathe.

tempest wrote:That Mugabe is trying to move the capital to his hometown is a far-fetching by the press. Mt Humpden (highlighted red) is 15 km (in a straight line) from the present CBD. Kutama (Mugabe's village, highlighted blued) is 70 km away so the new CBD will still be 65km from his home.



Not sure if they can afford it. They could get the Chinese to build the parliament and then let all the other Chinese investments go there. ... ... It wull still take time and I am not holding my breathe.

Thanks for the confirmation, thought i was the only one obsessed with the wishful thinking. Such a venture might turn out to be another unmitigated disaster, one which could keep us fably on our toes. A techno park in Zvimba can sound good but not something to do with the government-a very sensitive matter.

Did i get you flat-footed with the intentions of trying to join the "cake-list"?

Nice development over the skyscrapers with the night operations gadgets, ole Nkarei.

i agree totally with this writer
KENYA POLICE reforms are in deep shit .we cannot have two centres of power in a police instituition.
and to make matters worse THE president of kenya has the power to appoint deputy insector generals of police without any reference to anybody not even parliament..and that while the INSPECTOR GENERAL has only four years in office the deputy can serve for life..who drafted this stupid thing intoour laws?.its madnes..and i think this needs to be corrected ASAP

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000076504&story_title=Kenya-State-should-move-fast-and-disband-National-Police-Service-Commission

[quote="ole Nkarei"]@Technician

Nothing sinister. Training in varied conditions, is all. Putting these beautiful birds through as full a range of their awesome capacities as possible. Flying three teams in close proximity in pitch darkness in alternating speeds and attitude and direction and hostile topography and without visible ID lights and complete radio shutdown is almost as savage as putting a hungry lion in small cage with a fattened wildebeest!

AM STIL amazed that no one has picked this up in kenya..or it the fear of anything security related and no one dares asking maswali?
BTW
its very sad for a comrade on RR from the frontline in somalia dies from a grenade attack while at home soil here http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000076477&story_title=Kenya-KDF-soldier-killed-in-a-blast

this is too much of a provocation..why are the politicians very quiet on this
kdf shed blood and equipment to fullfill this mission.

so why cant tey pay up? ban ki moon is an unreliable western controlled poodle it seems.
kenya must push this until they pay up.



http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Shock-as-UN-holds-back-Ksh18bn-planned-for-polls/-/2558/1682728/-/h10el6z/-/index.html

1. In Principle and Constitutionally there is only one integrated Power Structure in Kenya Police. The disconnect that rears its ugly head is really an interpretation of these Constitutional roles - even the "must consult" between the Old Man and the Prime Minister has had catchy moments as both project their Constitutional Powers.

The NPSC (I)generates (ii)drives and (iii)oversights Policy in the Kenya Police. Very much like the National Security Council. It incorporate elements not in the Kenya Police seconded by Professional Bodies, Civil Society and the Executive. IG is the Primary Cog of the NPSC - not the pompous self-important Kivulundi.

NPS operationalizes Policy for the Kenya Police. And is responsible for results both successes and failures. The IG has no rivals in this function. That NPSC is effecting Staffing Movements is an aberration by Kivulundi which I suspect the genial IG may have allowed to slide during this Critical Transition Phase. No need to scrap the NPSC at all - just take Kivulundi through some quick education.

2. As for "Birds" - it took a while to sight the Z-9w and only coz OLN kicked off at that time. The Havoc is one very different Statement in our situation. Like your neighbour upgrading his ride from a Sunny B12 to a Porsche Carrera.

3. The UNSC has to seek additional funding for Contingencies out of her approved Budgetary STatements - such as the unannounced OLN. And if the big 10 are amenable, additional funding is injected into Ban ki Moon. And we all know that apart from Sammy's and Francois' belated conversion, every Western Nation disapproved of OLN for obvious reason. They need KDF in Soomaliya though they don't like it. The funds will come through albeit delayed.

Hi guys its been a while been out in the bush. Had some fun with this buggy impressive on speed n stability and but men its noisy esp if seated on the back seat. @ON thanks 4 the cue will be bird watching. Was in the bush few weeks ago when i heard the loud noise of an approaching helio stopped and grabbed my camera only to find it was a Z9. I have a feeling it wont be long.... patience

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000076589&story_title=Kenya-Army-man-in-prostitute-saga

so what did this guy really think..basic personall safety and security was not done.
loosing a firearm is a serious offence in any miliatary force in such circumstances.
i presume thats the end of the line for this officer..

how do you carry 1.2 million kshs with you into a pub?especialy an officer? no way..this must be a junior ranks fellow on RR from kismayu.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000076620&pageNo=1&story_title=Kenya-Magazines:%20East%20African%20coastline%20attracts%20attention%20as%20piracy%20drops

Aiseei fellas - #Risasi just buzzed TEA "Air Superiority" Tower on full-afterburners!!!! Great elucidation, Flyboy!

@C.sniper - no doubt you have noted that the entire NPSC has been shunted to school in Europe for the next three weeks. Meantime and following the intervention of the NSAC (DG/NIS, AG, DMI, SecDef. SecForex, IG/KPS, Cabinet Sec. Sec-internal), Kivulundi's recent raid on the KPS Structure are scrapped and the IG is now fast making his appointments and changes to the KPS Structure. One assumes the Lacuna created by the blotted expectations of NSPC will be removed by the time they return from Europe.

Now, to the Hapless Uniform in Rongai and his money, gun, girl! Bana, it is an isolated happening. Cut us some slack bro. But the young fella is of the Officer Corps at entry level - not even a WWII can walk off Barracks with a service Weapon; money-escort officially tasked to a Detail of several mean looking soldiers depending on the Amounts on-Escort. Young cub has learnt a hard lesson about money guns and girls. I hope he get to keep his job.

Have seen somewhere that the Parliamentary Budget Committee of the German “#Bundestag” will be visiting Kenya to intensify military cooperation from 6th to 8th Feb. we'l see how that plays out

mchoraji wrote:Have seen somewhere that the Parliamentary Budget Committee of the German “#Bundestag” will be visiting Kenya to intensify military cooperation from 6th to 8th Feb. we'l see how that plays out

I have quite a soft spot ffor the Germans even though they are NATO too. O.N and chance of a breadcrumb trail on this one?

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jasiri wrote:

mchoraji wrote:Have seen somewhere that the Parliamentary Budget Committee of the German “#Bundestag” will be visiting Kenya to intensify military cooperation from 6th to 8th Feb. we'l see how that plays out

I have quite a soft spot ffor the Germans even though they are NATO too. O.N and chance of a breadcrumb trail on this one?

Generally speaking GoK will spend just over a Billion USD at end of this year and just about 60% of that on Equipment Procurement both Replacement Stores and New stores. Balance on Admin-recurrent and Establishment costs including kila kitu - excluding direct OLN expenditure. Next five years will group Defence Spending twice-and-half present levels - increased visibility, changing Threat Matrix, expanding Sphere of vital Nation Interests, a growing nexus of Foreign Policy and Military Force-projection etc.. Hell if the Sedans don't settle down and Soomaliya remains flux, Budgets may grow biGger. Everybody around us is ratcheting up Defense Spending in the next five years. And the Grifon Vultures with their Defence Industries are circling hungrily above all Kenyana.

But Parliamentary Committees are Forensic of Goverment Activities and not Trade multipliers. In this case, their interests would be of military Equipment Lateral transfers that imply a cost to the German people - incentivized or subsidised sale. They may also want to verify if such equipment movements will offend any domestic or international laws.

Ngoja waje alafu ntakushow. Lakini Leopard MBTs - don't think so.

Ngoja waje alafu ntakushow. Lakini Leopard MBTs - don't think so.

Not in my wishlist, but griffons sure make some nice rifles. Wouldn't mind having those at our disposal, tho im sure they are here for much meaner business. like the Taurus for example. @Risasi, Position?

Heheheh ON I tried reducing the throttle lakini its out of my reach esp. when its on a twin engine double fin, high resonate are a consequence. Hehehe
@jas hydrocarbons tuu…its about the early bird……….the West know military up gradations are due on a country that recently discover hydrocarbons which also happens to be a key players in an upcoming commercial hub Kenyana. Watch tuu sikiye watakuja nanini . Germans always love to be tactiful and stay under the radar like the past when they supplied Mercedes Benz 911 for the transport divisions. Lakini that dept. has gone with Woos STEYR truck. I see this blue eye, eying on medical equipment’s, like upgrading force memorial to a military regional referral hosp. my two cents only.

Risasi wrote:Germans always love to be tactiful and stay under the radar like the past when they supplied Mercedes Benz 911 for the transport divisions. Lakini that dept. has gone with Woos STEYR truck. I see this blue eye, eying on medical equipment’s, like upgrading force memorial to a military regional referral hosp. my two cents only.

A regional Military referral hospital would be quite a strategic move for .ke. such a facility augurs well with V-2030 as it creates a larger human resource pool in the medical field that is retained to offer services locally since their civillian counterparts have relocated to the west.

Risasi wrote: Germans always love to be tactiful and stay under the radar like the past when they supplied Mercedes Benz 911 for the transport divisions. Lakini that dept. has gone with Woos STEYR truck.

Now that the transport div. has been mentioned there were tetezi that steyrs aren't that stable after there were a few accidents. I have seen a few KDF leyland trucks & I think they may be much better than the chinese ones much as they have a johnny connection


This type


or even this

mchoraji wrote:

Risasi wrote: Germans always love to be tactiful and stay under the radar like the past when they supplied Mercedes Benz 911 for the transport divisions. Lakini that dept. has gone with Woos STEYR truck.

Now that the transport div. has been mentioned there were tetezi that steyrs aren't that stable after there were a few accidents. I have seen a few KDF leyland trucks & I think they may be much better than the chinese ones much as they have a johnny connection


This type


or even this

I think that we are good at wasting Forex in importing stuff that we can produce locally. I think GMEA has the capacity to produce the truck in the caption below, it looks as good as any of the trucks mentioned above.

New Tactical Vehicle for RTA

Thailand army
began using a new tactical vehicle
Isuzu FTS H2E33 (4X4). These trucks have a size of 2.5 tons and easy in maintenance and repair. The vehicle can
be ridden comfortably on a flat terrain and contoured.

Specification :
Dimension (L x W x H ) 7,220 x2, 490 x3, 145
mm.
The load weight is 12,200 kg.
Plane load of 5,000 kilograms.
2,500
kg load on the terrain
Towing weight of 3,000 kg of baggage
Engines :
diesel engines Isuzu 6 cylinder, 7790 cc capacity.
Max torque 706 Nm (72
Kk.-m.) at 1450 rpm / min.
HP 240 and HP the (177 kW) / rpm min.
Fuel
tank capacity 200 liters.
6
speed forward and one reverse
speed.
The hydraulic brake system
Turning radius of 9 meters.
Operating
within 800 km.
Maximum speed of 97 km / hour.
The ability to climb high slopes 60 percent

@ S.K, i personally think it's a case of having to few patriots in the military. I have made noise about this exact thing several times before here and elsewhere. You can not build capacity if you can not create demand...in any case, locally built vehicles are more solid and robust.

jasiri wrote: You can not build capacity if you can not create demand...in any case, locally built vehicles are more solid and robust.

I understand in the 70s & 80s when leyland had a strong presence in kenya selling lorries & buses they had an assembly plant in thika. does it still function? GM is doing quite well currently with the gradual facing out of 14-seater matatus they have 30 per cent of the new vehicle market doing better than even toyota kenya juu most of the toyotas being used in kenya aren't new. if GM were to clinch a KDF contract they would soar to very high heights.

mchoraji wrote:

jasiri wrote: You can not build capacity if you can not create demand...in any case, locally built vehicles are more solid and robust.

I understand in the 70s & 80s when leyland had a strong presence in kenya selling lorries & buses they had an assembly plant in thika. does it still function? GM is doing quite well currently with the gradual facing out of matatus they have 30 per cent of the new vehicle market doing better than even toyotas juu most of those being used in kenya aren't new. if GM were to clinch a KDF contract they would soar to very high heights.

Very true @Mchoraji, think of other local manufacturers that will benefit from a contract of such magnitude.
Batteries - Chloride Exide
Tyres - Yana
Filters - Sunny - Nakuru
Tarpaulin - Tarpo
Body - Agro, CMC, KVM etc

Sierra Kilo wrote:

mchoraji wrote:

jasiri wrote: You can not build capacity if you can not create demand...in any case, locally built vehicles are more solid and robust.

I understand in the 70s & 80s when leyland had a strong presence in kenya selling lorries & buses they had an assembly plant in thika. does it still function? GM is doing quite well currently with the gradual facing out of matatus they have 30 per cent of the new vehicle market doing better than even toyotas juu most of those being used in kenya aren't new. if GM were to clinch a KDF contract they would soar to very high heights.

Very true @Mchoraji, think of other local manufacturers that will benefit from a contract of such magnitude.
Batteries - Chloride Exide
Tyres - Yana
Filters - Sunny - Nakuru
Tarpaulin - Tarpo
Body - Agro, CMC, KVM etc

Spot on guys, i wonder why we are not thinking along these lines thus saving our forex for other needy areas.

Sounds simple enough. Military Transport Trucks are just hardy rugged all-terraine unarmed soft-skinned lorries the like in possible civilian use daily. Non-strategic and not even tactical instruments. The SOCON landrover Defender rates much higher than the ubiquitous Steyr Truck.

Precisely because of that, these Trucks are merely components of a "pipeline" purchase that makes the procurement of Strategic and Tactical Equipment "wholesome". Like Tullow Oil laying All-weather roads in Turkana County, crash-training local Oil Engineers, sprouting Health Centres and Boarding Schools in Karachuonyo - as they pump out the oil to LAMU.

"You want the Z-9w please let us supply Steyr Trucks for your Transport Corp". That way, more of Uncle Woos Companies multiply the effect of the supply of the Z9s to greater mutual advantage.

We will substitute some of these eventually - some homegrown SOCOm UTFV prototypes are running trails and test in battle conditions around Northern Kenya and in Soomaliya already. But as "clever asbthe Serpent" isbthe way to go.

Ostensibly to provide Consular Security for their reopening Embassy. But that is really a mundane activity which even locals can do effectively if appropriately equipped and trained. UGABAG has thus far discharge top of the shelf security for Consular Activities.

I fear that the Third Scramble for African Resources is now fully enjoined. From Libya through Mail into the Dec running through Nairobi to Malawi....... Kenyana MUST close Ranks now or be swamped under new pseudo-colonialism.

ole Nkarei wrote:Ostensibly to provide Consular Security for their reopening Embassy. But that is really a mundane activity which even locals can do effectively if appropriately equipped and trained. UGABAG has thus far discharge top of the shelf security for Consular Activities.

I fear that the Third Scramble for African Resources is now fully enjoined. From Libya through Mail into the Dec running through Nairobi to Malawi....... Kenyana MUST close Ranks now or be swamped under new pseudo-colonialism.

david cameron is a hot headed gunslinger... he is trying to prop his relection campaign in 2015.he has poor pollling at home trailling labour by more han 7 points
btw
this discovery of hydrocarbons in this region is turning into a curse of some sort
italians are on coast ,turkish are circling like vultures,
the other day the somali president who i think is a sellout was at number ten ..and i think he made that military deal with the brits who are keen to see kenya loose out.
kenyans should push and shove if they want to remain relevant.

The Hydrocarbons were not intended for exploitation before the Kuwait sands were depleted. The old Economies are scrambling to reset their footing. I am certain that this region is about to enter a period of grave risk as externally-instigated civil strife and localised armed conflicts across national borders sprout out all over Kenyana. It is easy for the West to gridlock all african endeavours very much they have done to our Politico-economy over the past fifteen years.

Jubbaland is taking longer than expected to establish and the resistance of the Federal Authorities growing bolder and stronger. Not helpful that the new Ethiopia PM is yet wobbling about while Kenya's Political class continues their senseless internecine conflict. Uganda seems about to be entering a similar Kenya-like political gridlock; Tanzania's famous Social cohesion is clearly under serious threat on the backdrop of squabbles about sharing of natural gas windfall. To top up, the M23 hydrahead has resurfaced in SouthKivu with a different name but same Rwandese Agenda and all present African Peacemaking initiatives in Eastern DRC under serious onslaught by Western Governments and Agencies. Mali just makes me scream in frustrated anger at the fawning Africans adoring European colonialism.

If AMISOM drops it mandate, how far will these jungus go in Soomaliya?